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1 minute ago, Westcoastdrums said:

I also got the "step one" module that was optional for these speakers.  Essentially, it's a dedicated preamp for the bass output that supposedly does some background voodoo on the bass as well to clean it up even more. 

 

Best thing I ever did with my Focus (same model ... even the same finish) was biamp between the woofers and "everything else". It allowed me to eliminate the huge inductors in the signal path to the woofers. It's actually an easy crossover modification that is reversible.

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1 minute ago, Edgar said:

was biamp between the woofers and "everything else".

Uhhh what?   So, you biamped the legacies?  I have done that in the past with phenomial results as well, but this time around I'm going single amp and gonna give this step one a go before I automically resort to that once again. Sounds like you did something crossover wise in addition?   Waiting on all new cables I ordered to redo all connections in the system. 

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On 6/11/2019 at 1:27 PM, A1UC said:

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Sup old friend.. What you got there heresys? (or corns)

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3 minutes ago, Westcoastdrums said:

Sounds like you did something crossover wise in addition?

 

In stock form, the lower woofers cut off at 60 Hz with 1st-order crossover (a big inductor), while the upper woofer continues up to 180 Hz with a 2nd-order crossover (a not quite so big inductor plus a capacitor). I bypassed all of that and ran wires to the woofers for direct connection to my amp. I originally triamped them, maintaining the 60 Hz crossover for the lower woofers and the 180 Hz crossover for the upper, but eventually I found that it was unnecessary and just ran them all up to 180 Hz.

 

I kept the existing passive crossover between the midranges, tweeter, and ribbon, but did bypass the 2nd-order 180 Hz highpass section.

 

IIRC, this can all be done by disconnecting some wires and jumpering around some components. No desoldering or soldering was required (other than providing binding posts for the direct woofer connections), and it is all reversible.

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2 minutes ago, Edgar said:

 

In stock form, the lower woofers cut off at 60 Hz with 1st-order crossover (a big inductor), while the upper woofer continues up to 180 Hz with a 2nd-order crossover (a not quite so big inductor plus a capacitor). I bypassed all of that and ran wires to the woofers for direct connection to my amp. I originally triamped them, maintaining the 60 Hz crossover for the lower woofers and the 180 Hz crossover for the upper, but eventually I found that it was unnecessary and just ran them all up to 180 Hz.

 

I kept the existing passive crossover between the midranges, tweeter, and ribbon, but did bypass the 2nd-order 180 Hz highpass section.

 

IIRC, this can all be done by disconnecting some wires and jumpering around some components. No desoldering or soldering was required (other than providing binding posts for the direct woofer connections), and it is all reversible.

Interesting.  I'll try them as is first of course and see what I think, if unsatisfied, I'll Def explore that avenue.  Thanks for your input.  

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22 minutes ago, Edgar said:

Best thing I ever did with my Focus (same model ... even the same finish)

Haha, you don't happen to be from Michigan and had purchased the speakers new in the year 2000 do you?  If so, I may or may not have your original receipt 😂

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3 minutes ago, Westcoastdrums said:

Haha, you don't happen to be from Michigan and had purchased the speakers new in the year 2000 do you?  If so, I may or may not have your original receipt 😂

 

Ha, no. I bought them back in 1995, I think, from a fellow in Canada.

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2 minutes ago, Edgar said:

 

Ha, no. I bought them back in 1995, I think, from a fellow in Canada.

Roger that.  

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On ‎8‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 9:04 PM, wvu80 said:

I remember you said the sn was 1978 so I knew you had the correct year.  I guess the only issue you have now is what updates to do.

 

I've never heard of anybody updating an older model to an AL-3 but I guess you could.  It's more typical to go straight to the A/4500 and the tweeter of your choice.  The A/4500 is basically a Type A with a 4500 Hz XO instead of the OEM 6000 XO.

 

Whatever you do it will be an improvement over the AL.

 

 

So... I finally got these in my house last weekend after buying them 10 months ago.  I am pretty happy with them as they are in decent shape.  I will refinish them soon, but I already ordered A/4500 XO's and CT-120's.  I will likely get the A-55's and replace the bass driver with a new K-33 (one of them has a noise, but I haven't opened it up yet as I could only hear it on once song).

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My sub is keeping up with these better than I thought.

 

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I didn't waste time in upgrading!  I picked up some CT120's and A/4500's and I am very happy so far.  I will likely upgrade to the A-55G soon and replace the bass drivers.

 

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Sup old friend.. What you got there heresys? (or corns)

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2 minutes ago, A1UC said:


corns , 1985 have (2) pair now


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You kept the first pair this long? Im impressed! Thats a long time for you 👍. Corns do sound nice. Pics please 😁

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33 minutes ago, yamahaSHO said:

I didn't waste time in upgrading!  I picked up some CT120's and A/4500's and I am very happy so far.  I will likely upgrade to the A-55G soon and replace the bass drivers.

 

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Very cool! Im Probably getting those xo as well. Please post your opinion. Are you replacing AA?

 

Nm I see you have 78 ls so AA (I also have 78 Lascalas 👍)

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44 minutes ago, Heritage_Head said:

Very cool! Im Probably getting those xo as well. Please post your opinion. Are you replacing AA?

 

Nm I see you have 78 ls so AA (I also have 78 Lascalas 👍)


Someone did some swapping on mine before I got them.  They had AL's and the squawker had been replaced with a K-55-M (which sounds good and the cap is sealed). 

I like the high end extension of the new tweeters.  Coming from RF-62's, I was missing it with the stock speakers (some of that could have been crossovers).  The squawker/horn is less in your face now, but balances out nicely.  I'll still need listen to them more, but I will probably just sell the old parts to recoup money from upgrading as I don't plan to put them back in.   

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45 minutes ago, yamahaSHO said:


Someone did some swapping on mine before I got them.  They had AL's and the squawker had been replaced with a K-55-M (which sounds good and the cap is sealed). 

I like the high end extension of the new tweeters.  Coming from RF-62's, I was missing it with the stock speakers (some of that could have been crossovers).  The squawker/horn is less in your face now, but balances out nicely.  I'll still need listen to them more, but I will probably just sell the old parts to recoup money from upgrading as I don't plan to put them back in.   

Ive had rf-62. So many speakers in-between (rf82,rf7ll,cornwalls,kpt-904,heresy)now la scalas. That is quite a jump indeed. Enjoy....

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2 hours ago, Heritage_Head said:

Ive had rf-62. So many speakers in-between (rf82,rf7ll,cornwalls,kpt-904,heresy)now la scalas. That is quite a jump indeed. Enjoy....


I grew up with my dad having a set of La Scala's that he purchased in 1982 and knew what they'd sound like...  So I knew I'd be changing some things.  Overall, I wish I had bought these sooner.

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18 minutes ago, yamahaSHO said:


I grew up with my dad having a set of La Scala's that he purchased in 1982 and knew what they'd sound like...  So I knew I'd be changing some things.  Overall, I wish I had bought these sooner.

Ha! So true... You where at least lucky to get the klipsch brand experience early. Sadly my adventure into pwk land didn't come tell about 20 years into my audio hobby. After years with brands I won't bore anyone with. I got my first pair of small klipsch reference monitors. I knew about klipsch mind you. Just for what ever reason never brought a pair home "rolls eyes with how dumb was I look"

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Hey... I just hot some 120's also. I have no idea what I am going to do with them because I don't need them, but they were reasonably priced.

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39 minutes ago, Schu said:

Hey... I just hot some 120's also. I have no idea what I am going to do with them because I don't need them, but they were reasonably priced.

Want to sell them?

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