twk123 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 My Mom has moved into a new house with her boyfriend about 20 min away and he wants to build a top of the line HT system. I am still putting the pieces together but I would like to do a false wall with AT screen and Klipsch Pro audio speakers for LCR, probably either KI-396-SMA-II (advice from @MetropolisLakeOutfitters) or K-310. What do you guys recommend for a power amp for these? I will have the AVR handle the surrounds for 7.1 but want something really good for the front soundstage. Total budget is about $10,000 to $15,000. Thank you for the help in advance, I am really stoked on this project and will do some more posts once I get the pieces better figured out in my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 9 hours ago, twk123 said: Total budget is about $10,000 to $15,000. How much of that budget is earmarked for an amp? Assuming a 5-channel or 7-channel amp? Off the top of my head I suggest any of these two fine reliable pieces. Budget may or may not allow for these. Anthem MCA 525 Outlaw Audio Model 7700 Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Parasound just came out with a new 180 watt 5 channel Halo amp that you may want to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twk123 Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 Thanks for the input guys. Due to budget constraints, I think I am going to just use the AVR to power them for right now as it is a smaller room. I am thinking of using a Denon S-730H which can put out 165 W per channel. I am trying to get the budget down to around $8,000 which is about as low as I can go and still do a pro- audio setup and run it as a 5.1 for now. I will have another post with a full gear list soon. https://usa.denon.com/us/product/hometheater/receivers/avrs730h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 4 hours ago, twk123 said: I am thinking of using a Denon S-730H which can put out 165 W per channel. https://usa.denon.com/us/product/hometheater/receivers/avrs730h Well........NO. Power Output (6 ohm, 1 kHz, 10% 1ch Drive)165W A little manipulation and play on "specs" I would say. But it may still work okay. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Power Output (8 ohm, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08% 2ch Drive)75W Now that's a bit less confusing huh? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twk123 Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 5 hours ago, willland said: Power Output (8 ohm, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08% 2ch Drive)75W Now that's a bit less confusing huh? Bill Interesting how they play with the numbers. I have not looked at new AVRs in a while and thought that with many companies going to Class D the ratings would be more accurate for all channels. Speaking of Class D, I am thinking of maybe running three of these bridged as mono blocks for the LCR: https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-apa150-150w-power-amplifier--300-812 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyrc Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 7 hours ago, willland said: Power Output (8 ohm, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08% 2ch Drive)75W Now that's a bit less confusing huh? Bill With all channels operating you can expect even less. A rule of the thumb I heard was about 80%, or 60 w.p.c. That would be enough for some Klipsch speakers in a medium size room. Isn't a K-691 just a tweeter in various Klipsch Pro Speakers like KPT- 396? BTW, 60 watts would be enough for a KPT-396, IMO, particularly since you would run it "small" and feed everything below about 80 or 90 Hz to a subwoofer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TasDom Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 This would make for a very nice combo with your budget in mind. This amp..... plus.... https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/marsr7009/marantz-sr7009-9.2-ch-x-125-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html or the separates route... https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/marav7702/marantz-av7702-11.2-ch-networking-a/v-preamp/processor/1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twk123 Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 8 hours ago, garyrc said: With all channels operating you can expect even less. A rule of the thumb I heard was about 80%, or 60 w.p.c. That would be enough for some Klipsch speakers in a medium size room. Isn't a K-691 just a tweeter in various Klipsch Pro Speakers like KPT- 396? BTW, 60 watts would be enough for a KPT-396, IMO, particularly since you would run it "small" and feed everything below about 80 or 90 Hz to a subwoofer. Thanks for the heads up, I have edited the post for the actual speaker code instead of the tweeter. I think I will just use the AVR for now and if needed can upgrade. This project is still a moving target regarding final budget and setup etc so I want to keep the cost as minimal as possible but still hit a good part of the cost/quality curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 You need separates. https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/marmm8077/marantz-mm8077-7-ch-x-150-watts-power-amplifier/1.html https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/intdhc806/integra-dhc-80.6-11.2-ch-thx-networking-a/v-preamp/processor/1.html Or similar. And at LEAST 2 subs, 4 if you can swing it. Place subs on opposing walls. http://www.klipsch.com/products/reference-subwoofers?model=r-115sw http://assets.klipsch.com/product-specsheets/KPT-884-SW-Data-Sheet-v03.pdf https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/category/spksubwoofer/speakers/powered-subwoofers/1.html?woofer_size[]=12"%2B&brand_f[]=SUNFIRE KI-396 sound wonderful, but so new Cornwalls and Fortes and may be cheaper and are far more attractive and you can use Heresy IIIs for center and surrounds and have them all closely "voiced". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I would get a good 5 or 7 ch emotiva and a Pioneer Elite SC99 or higher and call it a day. What other attributes some companies claims will be a mute point unless Mon is in a space greater than 6000 cu. ft. I am running a 9.X.X and the surround don't demand mega watts. Focus on the front 3 and have the surround able to back them up. A Pioneer Elite will fit the bill since I am in a greater than 5300 basement. How you handel the bass is the real question, not an amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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