willland Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, BlessedPrince said: I stream music from a Mac. Tidal masters is only available through desktop or laptop. How can I use analog with a laptop? Any suggestions. Right now I’m using an optical cable with adapter from Mac to receiver. I would think you would inject a DAC between the laptop and the Yamaha. Something simple like this. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/audioquest-dragonfly-black-v1-5-black/5312905.p?skuId=5312905&ref=212&loc=1&ksid=fed795fb-818f-4356-a46d-6ecb1833fe5b&ksprof_id=16&ksaffcode=pg265324&ksdevice=c&lsft=ref:212,loc:2&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyNP90rLP1wIVjR2BCh2E_Q6mEAQYAiABEgIQ9fD_BwE plus this from the Dragonfly to the Yamaha. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/audioquest-tower-3-3-3-5mm-to-rca-interconnect-cable-white/2038757.p?skuId=2038757 By the way you don't have to spend that much for the 3.5mm to RCA adapter. I bought mine(another brand) for $9.99. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, willland said: By the way you don't have to spend that much for the 3.5mm to RCA adapter. I bought mine(another brand) for $9.99. Bill +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlessedPrince Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 I would think you would inject a DAC between the laptop and the Yamaha. Something simple like this.https://www.bestbuy.com/site/audioquest-dragonfly-black-v1-5-black/5312905.p?skuId=5312905&ref=212&loc=1&ksid=fed795fb-818f-4356-a46d-6ecb1833fe5b&ksprof_id=16&ksaffcode=pg265324&ksdevice=c&lsft=ref:212,loc:2&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyNP90rLP1wIVjR2BCh2E_Q6mEAQYAiABEgIQ9fD_BwE plus this from the Dragonfly to the Yamaha.https://www.bestbuy.com/site/audioquest-tower-3-3-3-5mm-to-rca-interconnect-cable-white/2038757.p?skuId=2038757 By the way you don't have to spend that much for the 3.5mm to RCA adapter. I bought mine(another brand) for $9.99. BillI thought the dragon was more like a headphone amp. How would I make that work. From usb to amp? I have seen the rca cables, I just don’t think they can convert or decode the sound from laptop. Unless I use the dragon first and then the rca to amp. I see. Is that what you were trying to say. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, BlessedPrince said: I thought the dragon was more like a headphone amp. How would I make that work. From usb to amp? I have seen the rca cables, I just don’t think they can convert or decode the sound from laptop. Unless I use the dragon first and then the rca to amp. I see. Is that what you were trying to say. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk USB usually from computer to DAC. By the way, what do you have out for audio on your Mac? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, BlessedPrince said: I thought the dragon was more like a headphone amp. How would I make that work. From usb to amp? I have seen the rca cables, I just don’t think they can convert or decode the sound from laptop. Unless I use the dragon first and then the rca to amp. I see. Is that what you were trying to say. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk The laptop is connected to the Dragonfy via USB(digital) and out from Dragonfly DAC via 3.5mm to RCA adapter(analog) to stereo RCA inputs on the Yamaha. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlessedPrince Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 USB usually from computer to DAC. By the way, what do you have out for audio on your Mac?TidalSent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, BlessedPrince said: Tidal Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Cool! See Willand is answering. Enjoy whatever you choose and, think the Yamaha will work fine for now with your speakers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlessedPrince Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Cool! See Willand is answering. Enjoy whatever you choose and, think the Yamaha will work fine for now with your speakers.Yes, it’s good to count on the forum members. Like the audio family[emoji6]. I’m using my A1050 receiver right now and I’m happy with music In direct mode. At least for the music I listen too. I feel like and integrated amp will give me fuller sound. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlessedPrince Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 The laptop is connected to the Dragonfy via USB(digital) and out from Dragonfly DAC via 3.5mm to RCA adapter(analog) to stereo RCA inputs on the Yamaha. BillI’ve been known about this but had forgotten. I just looked it up and they’ve updated the dragon dac with MQA which is what Tidal uses or promotes. Even better. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, BlessedPrince said: Yes, it’s good to count on the forum members. Like the audio family. I’m using my A1050 receiver right now and I’m happy with music In direct mode. At least for the music I listen too. I feel like and integrated amp will give me fuller sound. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk They know their stuff, like I have said before. Do think you will really like the integrated quite a lot. Sometimes when moving from one audio component, the music takes on let's say different characteristics. All should be good with only upside surprises.. Direct mode can sound really good on some pieces like my Marantz. Like Yamaha sound as well. Think you will not find disappointment. What I was referring to about audio out earlier on your computer were the connections. I have streamed from my Dell out to amp without a n external DAC at times. It can be rewarding depending upon your soundcard. If so, I would do it just for comparison sake. It made me realize the diff. with and without. Listening at reasonable(?) levels with the Yamaha will tell a tale also. Hope so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlessedPrince Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 They know their stuff, like I have said before. Do think you will really like the integrated quite a lot. Sometimes when moving from one audio component, the music takes on let's say different characteristics. All should be good with only upside surprises.. Direct mode can sound really good on some pieces like my Marantz. Like Yamaha sound as well. Think you will not find disappointment. What I was referring to about audio out earlier on your computer were the connections. I have streamed from my Dell out to amp without a n external DAC at times. It can be rewarding depending upon your soundcard. If so, I would do it just for comparison sake. It made me realize the diff. with and without. Listening at reasonable(?) levels with the Yamaha will tell a tale also. Hope so!I was running an optical cable with adapter to laptop. To receiver. This allowed the laptop to be bypassed with the settings on the Tidal app. I was getting 96khz on the mastered music. It does sound fuller in my opinion and cleaner. But even then it was limited. I need an MAQ DAC which will unfold the whole file. So thanks to willland, I’m most likely gonna get the Red dragonfly. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, BlessedPrince said: Tidal Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I could be wrong but I think Billybob wanted to know what type of cornnections or cables does your laptop have or take. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, BlessedPrince said: I was running an optical cable with adapter to laptop. To receiver. This allowed the laptop to be bypassed with the settings on the Tidal app. I was getting 96khz on the mastered music. It does sound fuller in my opinion and cleaner. But even then it was limited. I need an MAQ DAC which will unfold the whole file. So thanks to willland, I’m most likely gonna get the Red dragonfly. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Had to sound decent I would think. Those Dragonfly's get good reviews. I liked letting my MusiciStreamer II do a slow burn-in while listening. It took a little time but then wow. Was using it for YouTube mostly. Really helped at the time. Someone was just speaking of the new to me format on forum.. Know you will let us know how it all sounds. Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlessedPrince Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Had to sound decent I would think. Those Dragonfly's get good reviews. I liked letting my MusiciStreamer II do a slow burn-in while listening. It took a little time but then wow. Was using it for YouTube mostly. Really helped at the time. Someone was just speaking of the new to me format on forum.. Know you will let us know how it all sounds. Congrats!I will definitely share my experience that I think will be very pleasing. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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