Schu Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 from 2018 CES... before you ask, $4000pr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtmudd Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Schu said: from 2018 CES... before you ask, $4000pr jbl l 100...had three different tweeters ...through out its history.. A Dave May design...I think jbl sold over 100k pairs in a 11 year run.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted January 16, 2018 Moderators Share Posted January 16, 2018 And they kept the funky foam grill, probably get a discount is you have bell bottom pants on when you order ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 $4000? Toto I don't think were in the 1970s anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorjen Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Bring back the L300 Summit and then they would be onto something. Cost aside though I am sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 $4K for L100's?? Trust me, they're not that good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, jimjimbo said: $4K for L100's?? Trust me, they're not that good. My 4311s cost $329 each in 1971-72. The cost of inflation now makes that a tad over $2k each. The 4311 was the pro version of the L100. I still use mine. They have more bass than a pair of Heresy speakers. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 I'm not paying $4000 for heresys either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldred Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Come on.....Are you comparing L100's to Herey's ? I have a good friend (JBL Paul)...He is all excited about this....Kind of like I was about the Fort'e III's. My comment to him was "Nice speaker...Too bad they forgot the horns" George 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzog Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 JBL is bringing back a couple vintage speakers. ...they will have a tough time coming up with new designs (at least for their synthesis line) since they fired all their top engineers that had been there for 40+ years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Grizzog said: JBL is bringing back a couple vintage speakers. ...they will have a tough time coming up with new designs (at least for their synthesis line) since they fired all their top engineers that had been there for 40+ years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Bean counters win, quality looses. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheel Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 As I recall Mark Deneen was tweaking a pair of JBL 100s for near field listening right before his departure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I heard them at CES, twas a bit brighter than i would have expected just looking at the things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsosdrummer Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/16/2018 at 12:31 PM, jorjen said: Bring back the L300 Summit and then they would be onto something. Cost aside though I am sure. When I was a retail audio salesman back between 1977 and 1981 our store had L300s and Cornwalls in the same demo room. The Cornwalls bested the L300s in all musical attributes (dynamic impact, freedom from coloration, lack of distortion, realistic soundstaging) no matter what kind of music you played through them and no matter the volume at which you played them (the L300 was particularly weak when playing orchestral music at lower volumes). The comparison wasn't even close. I couldn't make the same direct comparison between the L100s and Heresys because the L100s were in another demo room, but the Heresys blew-away the L166 and L65 Jubal in every attribute except bass extension. And since the Jubal cost what a Cornwall cost, a dollar-for-dollar comparison was particularly devastating for JBL. I currently own a pair of JBL 4312E studio monitors and if these new L100s sound anything like them, they're not even worth a serious listen. (I finally removed the 4312Es from my studio about 8 months ago because they were so tonally colored, especially throughout the midrange, that I simply couldn't trust that they were telling me what I was really putting on my recordings. Mixing and mastering on my 1980s vintage Cornwall IIs has proven to be much more successful — the mixes I create using the CWs translate extremely well to just about any other type of device: small 2-channel stereos, Bluetooth speakers, car stereos and home theater systems.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, hsosdrummer said: When I was a retail audio salesman back between 1977 and 1981 our store had L300s and Cornwalls in the same demo room. The Cornwalls bested the L300s in all musical attributes (dynamic impact, freedom from coloration, lack of distortion, realistic soundstaging) no matter what kind of music you played through them and no matter the volume at which you played them (the L300 was particularly weak when playing orchestral music at lower volumes). The comparison wasn't even close. I couldn't make the same direct comparison between the L100s and Heresys because the L100s were in another demo room, but the Heresys blew-away the L166 and L65 Jubal in every attribute except bass extension. And since the Jubal cost what a Cornwall cost, a dollar-for-dollar comparison was particularly devastating for JBL. I currently own a pair of JBL 4312E studio monitors and if these new L100s sound anything like them, they're not even worth a serious listen. (I finally removed the 4312Es from my studio about 8 months ago because they were so tonally colored, especially throughout the midrange, that I simply couldn't trust that they were telling me what I was really putting on my recordings. Mixing and mastering on my 1980s vintage Cornwall IIs has proven to be much more successful — the mixes I create using the CWs translate extremely well to just about any other type of device: small 2-channel stereos, Bluetooth speakers, car stereos and home theater systems.) That Corwall mixing is very interesting. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyrc Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 1/16/2018 at 3:26 PM, Marvel said: My 4311s cost $329 each in 1971-72. The cost of inflation now makes that a tad over $2k each. The 4311 was the pro version of the L100. I still use mine. They have more bass than a pair of Heresy speakers. Bruce I thought the 4310 was the pro version of the L100, and the 4311 was an improvement --- unless they kept changing the L100, without changing the model number. They used the 4311 at the Different Fur Trading Company [San Francisco recording studio] in the Moog Synthesizer room. They were less efficient than the Heresy, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Gary, Yes, it was the 4310., but both series changed over time.The main problem for both is the crossover. And I would agree on the efficiency issue, too. When I got my Heresy IIs, at first hearing I thought they sounded vey similar, but the Heresy was much louder. Well, we know that with the higher efficieny, the distortion goes down. The JBL is all direct radiator based. If I had the money, I would get the Jantzen crossover for them, to have an actual crossover that corrects the level mismatch and phase issues. I still like them, warts and all. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 18 hours ago, MetropolisLakeOutfitters said: I heard them at CES, twas a bit brighter than i would have expected just looking at the things. Yea the orange grill will go with your avocado refrigerator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, babadono said: Yea the orange grill will go with your avocado refrigerator I didn't see any orange, not sure if it was a different model or you get to choose or what. This is what was at CES. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Weren't those speakers next to the "new L100's" the 4367 at something like $15k for a pair of 15" 2-ways? That's insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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