Tony T Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Regarding best money spent, which is the best way to go? It's obvious Crites is less money. Is a person getting a better product while paying the higher price at ALK? In short, which of the two is a person actually "getting what they paid for" in value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tony T said: It's obvious Crites is less money. Is a person getting a better product while paying the higher price at ALK? In my experience, no. 6 minutes ago, Tony T said: In short, which of the two is a person actually "getting what they paid for" in value? Bob Crites 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 They are not the same. There are performance differences and should not be directly compared. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Anything can be compared- objectively and subjectively. The problem with this hobby, like many others - is that someone else’s opinion doesn’t tell you what you will actually prefer - you have to experience it for yourself. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 I don’t think there is enough price difference between Al’s CornScalawall “Universal” and Bob’s Type B3 clone to call one a better value over the other. They are both good value builds - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 I agree all of our ears do not hear reproduction equally. I'm a music listener and welcome the very best reproduction possible! That's really all there is to it. Seems to me there should be an opinion regarding finer quality differences. But then again, not everyone out there has 1 pair of both makers' boards in their Khorns to be able to switch back n' forth to accurately and definitively determine for themselves. Hmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Value? Everyone has a different idea of what value is and it's not always related to net worth...Pay and reap the benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopardave Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Some have reported a larger sound stage with the ALK universal network which is still available as i just email AL a few days ago about it, but these are about $100 more than the Crites networks. AL recommended the AP-12/A5800 extreme slope for cornwall. That combo is very pricey and need to work together. I just ordered the B3's from Bob Crites for my vertical CW's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted February 5, 2018 Moderators Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 2/2/2018 at 8:35 PM, Deang said: Anything can be compared- objectively and subjectively. The problem with this hobby, like many others - is that someone else’s opinion doesn’t tell you what you will actually prefer - you have to experience it for yourself. Smartest thing anybody has ever said on this forum. A second choice is lucking into an audio friend who has very similar preferences as you do and getting their opinion. (Like a movie critic you agree with 95 percent of the time). Third school of thought is they are purists and don't want to mess with original design and purchase rebuild kit from Klipsch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olomana Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Not sure which crossovers you were talking about? Al's Universals cost $320 and Bob's AA's cost $310. I just bought a set of type A from Bob. Happy with the build and trying to make time to get them installed. Would have loved to have a few trial sets to see which one would work best for my type of music and room. Gonna keep the old AL and see if I can do the conversion as described in another thread to build a AA just for kicks. olomana 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 5 hours ago, dwilawyer said: Smartest thing anybody has ever said on this forum. Nah. Too bad people only remember the stupid stuff I say. :-) 5 hours ago, dwilawyer said: Third school of thought is they are purists and don't want to mess with original design and purchase rebuild kit from Klipsch. Klipsch doesn’t sell rebuild kits. Hell, I can’t even get a pair of replacement horns for my LaScalas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted February 6, 2018 Moderators Share Posted February 6, 2018 18 hours ago, Deang said: Nah. Too bad people only remember the stupid stuff I say. :-) Klipsch doesn’t sell rebuild kits. Hell, I can’t even get a pair of replacement horns for my LaScalas. I think they do, and I think they even offer rebuild services. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, dwilawyer said: I think they do, and I think they even offer rebuild services. Whaaaaaat? When did this start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Well, someone should call them up and ask to have their AA's rebuilt. If they do this, I bet they just send you to some third party vendor you've never heard of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I think the big question is, do you want adjustability? Adjustability comes locked @ or around 8 ohms I think with Al's. Bob's will be the closest thing to stock and your power source will be not be seeing 8 ohms at a constant. Higher ohm readings were liked by the man himself. Some say the shunted topo knocks the dynamics down a bit, but it may just be an ongoing debate among few. Dean or others care to go in to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muel Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 If you are wanting to try various horns or drivers you would likely want the adjustability of the ALK's. To ask which is the better "value" is like asking what flavor of soda is the better value... grape or root beer? Try 'em both see what you like best. Sell your 2nd choice here. If you wait, you will eventually find them for sale here. To me, that is the best spent money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators Travis In Austin Posted February 7, 2018 Moderators Share Posted February 7, 2018 9 hours ago, Deang said: Well, someone should call them up and ask to have their AA's rebuilt. If they do this, I bet they just send you to some third party vendor you've never heard of. I know they rebuild some there in-house right there in Hope. But I am not sure which ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 On February 5, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Deang said: Nah. Too bad people only remember the stupid stuff I say. :-) Klipsch doesn’t sell rebuild kits. Hell, I can’t even get a pair of replacement horns for my LaScalas. --- oh yeah - I remember - that Was stupid ?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted February 7, 2018 Moderators Share Posted February 7, 2018 9 hours ago, CECAA850 said: Whaaaaaat? When did this start? I'm not sure. Maybe @Chief bonehead can chime in and tell us. I'm also pretty sure they offer rebuild kits if you want to do it yourself and keep it "stock." Again, I'm not sure what they currently offer. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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