CECAA850 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 37 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Man is a political animal. Aristotle. 'They don't call me Tyrannosaurus Sex for nothing. Ted Kennedy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 20 hours ago, dtel said: That goes for many musicians, and movie stars, went to see the Eagles a few years ago it was great except for the 15 minute political speech in the middle. 8 hours ago, CECAA850 said: There's no place for politics in sports, concerts or speaker forums. It amazes me how many people complain about political speech but then don't care who is elected....Btw, Rock-n-Roll IS an excellent art form to express free speech politics and it may be the reason you guys don't understand Peter Gabriel and probably don't appreciate a lot of the artist I like. 8 hours ago, oldtimer said: Man is a political animal. Aristotle. Wasn't that back in the day when the concept of "idiot" was established? I heard that word's etymology stemmed form folks who couldn't talk politics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 59 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said: it may be the reason you guys don't understand Peter Gabriel he's easy to understand. He simply is not as profound as so many others, such as ELP or King Crimson and many others. Cold and misty morning, I heard a warning borne in the air About an age of power where no one had an hour to spare, Where the seeds have withered, silent children shivered, in the cold Now their faces captured in the lenses of the jackals for gold I'll be there I'll be there I will be there Suffering in silence, they've all been betrayed They hurt them and they beat them, in a terrible way Praying for survival at the end of the day There is no compassion for those who stay, yeah I'll be there I'll be there I will be there There must be someone who can set them free To take their sorrow from this odyssey To help the helpless and the refugee To protect what's left of humanity Can't you see Can't you see Can't you see, yeah I'll be there I'll be there I will be there To heal their sorrow To beg and borrow Fight tomorrow Step inside! Hello! We've a most amazing show You'll enjoy it all we know Step inside! Step inside! We've got thrills and shocks, supersonic fighting ***** Leave your hammers at the box Come inside! Come inside! Roll up! Roll up! Roll up! See the show! Left behind the bars, rows of Bishops' heads in jars And a bomb inside a car Spectacular! Spectacular! If you follow me there's a speciality Some tears for you to see Misery, misery, Roll up! Roll up! Roll up! See the show! Next upon the bill in our House of Vaudeville We've a stripper in a till What a thrill! What a thrill! And not content with that, With our hands behind our backs, We pull Jesus from a hat, Get into that! Get into that! Roll up! Roll up! Roll up! See the show! Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends We're so glad you could attend, come inside, come inside There behind the glass stands a real blade of grass Be careful as you pass, move along, move along Come inside, the show's about to start Guaranteed to blow your head apart Rest assured you'll get your money's worth Greatest show in Heaven, Hell or Earth You've got to see the show, it's a dynamo You've got to see the show, it's rock and roll, oh Right before your eyes we pull laughter from the skies And he laughs until he cries, then he dies, then he dies Come inside, the show's about to start Guaranteed to blow your head apart You've got to see the show, it's a dynamo You've got to see the show, it's rock and roll, oh Soon the Gypsy Queen in a glaze of Vaseline Will perform on guillotine, what a scene, what a scene Next upon the stand will you please extend a hand To Alexander's Ragtime Band, Dixieland, Dixieland Roll up, roll up, roll up See the show Performing on a stool we've a sight to make you drool Seven virgins and a mule, keep it cool, keep it cool We would like it to be known the exhibits that were shown Were exclusively our own, all our own, all our own Come and see the show, come and see the show Come and see the show See the show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Said the straight man to the late man Where have you been? I've been here and I've been there And I've been in between I talk to the wind My words are all carried away I talk to the wind The wind does not hear The wind cannot hear I'm on the outside looking inside What do I see Much confusion, disillusion All around me I talk to the wind My words are all carried away I talk to the wind The wind does not hear The wind cannot hear You don't possess me, don't impress me Just upset my mind Can't instruct me or conduct me Just use up my time I talk to the wind My words are all carried away I talk to the wind The wind does not hear The wind cannot hear I talk to the wind My words are all carried away I talk to the wind The wind does not hear The wind cannot hear Said the straight man to the late man Where have you been? I've been here and I've been there And I've been in between 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Cat's foot, iron claw Neurosurgeons scream for more At paranoia's poison door Twenty-first century schizoid man Blood rack, barbed wire Politicians' funeral pyre Innocents raped with napalm fire Twenty-first century schizoid man Death seed, blind man's greed Poets' starving children bleed Nothing he's got he really needs Twenty-first century schizoid man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 But I digress. Peter Gabriel is SO profound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 On 7/13/2018 at 7:26 PM, oldtimer said: he's easy to understand. He simply is not as profound as so many others, such as ELP or King Crimson and many others. I didn't realize this was a contest. 🤑 I won't comment on the lyrics you posted because if you think they are more profound then I have no desire to change your opinion. It makes no difference to me if you prefer those to the one I've chosen for the topic of this thread. That said, this song was written in 2002 and I think it shows we've actually taken it to a whole 'nother level given the REALITY TV phenomenon that has hit the USA. On 7/13/2018 at 7:34 PM, oldtimer said: But I digress. Peter Gabriel is SO profound. Yes he is! Let's go One man at the window One girl at the bar Saw that look of recognition When they know just who you are I seen you on the tv I seen you on that show You make the people crazy And then you let them go Before the show we calm them We sympathize, we care And the hostile folk we keep apart 'Til the red light says on air' Did you see our leather lovers All tied up to the chair Did you catch those child molesters No one else goes there What a show, the Barry Williams show What a show, Dysfunctional excess Is all it took for my success The greater pain that they endure The more you know the show will scored It's showtime Got the reputation of a surgeon Cos they cannot feel the cut It looks so very simple But it really is an art They call our studio the hospital' Making money from the sick We let people be themselves There is no other trick My lover stole my girlfriend' I keep beating up my ex' I want to kill my neighbor' My daughter's selling sex' My s/m lover hurt me' My girl became a man' I love my daughter's rapist My life's gone down the pan' What a show, the Barry Williams show The Barry Williams show Dysfunctional excess Is all it took for my success And when the punches start to fly The ratings always read so high It's showtime That girl has got no scruples' Not a wrinkle on her face You would not believe the plot she conceived So they'd let her take my place Well, no man is an island No man is a sea But this display of emotion Is all but drowning me What a show, oh what a show On my show, the Barry Williams show It's my show What a show Dysfunctional excess Is all it took for my success The best tv you've ever seen Where people say the things that they really mean I hear my name, I hear them roar For the one more time I take the floor Just one more Barry Williams show We're gonna take you where you want to go It's showtime Come on down Come on down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 I particularly like this LIVE version of the song given his opening comments and I suggest the latest renditions should include what people ingest on the internet. We have come full circle given that Reality TV show folks are no longer the thing of daytime tv. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 16 hours ago, Zen Traveler said: I didn't realize this was a contest It's not. It's fun to mess around with lyrics though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 On 7/13/2018 at 7:34 PM, oldtimer said: But I digress. Peter Gabriel is SO profound. Yes they are...."come on down." 🙃 😒 I seen you on the tv I seen you on that show You make the people crazy And then you let them go Before the show we calm them We sympathize, we care And the hostile folk we keep apart 'Til the red light says on air' Did you see our leather lovers All tied up to the chair Did you catch those child molesters No one else goes there What a show, the Barry Williams show What a show, Dysfunctional excess Is all it took for my success The greater pain that they endure The more you know the show will scored It's showtime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/profound Captain Obvious is usually not considered profound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 hours ago, oldtimer said: Captain Obvious is usually not considered profound. In 2002 I'm pretty sure no one thought a Reality TV Show host would be POTUSA and especially this one. {Not a political comment as much as a "Captain Obvious," rebuttal. :)} Btw, I'm not sure who this character is except in who the words portrays him or her to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 On 5/28/2018 at 1:51 PM, oldtimer said: This where someone has to say: C'mon man! I agree. Peter Gabriel's Melt (iii) is his best followed by Peter Gabriel Plays live. Maybe his early Genesis stuff after that. Then (iv). It takes a while to get to the 80's stuff (pretty much like any bank, the 80's were dark times, they were.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtmudd Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 38 minutes ago, tigerwoodKhorns said: I agree. Peter Gabriel's Melt (iii) is his best followed by Peter Gabriel Plays live. Maybe his early Genesis stuff after that. Then (iv). It takes a while to get to the 80's stuff (pretty much like any bank, the 80's were dark times, they were.). So And us are good too... Just don't have to listen to the hits.. And if your a Gabriel fan.... You would know it's one of his Most artistic... And is part of a trilogy.. Robert fripps exposure And Daryl Halls sacred songs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtmudd Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Oh, there's an old man on the floor, so I summon my charm I say "Hey Scumbag, has there been an alarm?" He said "Yeh, 'been selling off eternal youth They all got afraid 'cause I'm the living proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 "Vanity of vanities. All is vanity, and a chase after wind." says Qoheleth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 57 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said: In 2002 I'm pretty sure no one thought a Reality TV Show would be POTUSA and especially this one. {Not a political comment as much as a "Captain Obvious," rebuttal. :)} Btw, I'm not sure who this character is except in who the words portrays him or her to be. I was using "profound" in a sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Gabriel wrote some good lyrics: At the top of the stairs, there's hundreds of people,Running around to all the doors.They try to find, find themselves an audience;their deductions need applause. The rich man stands in front of me,The poor man behind my back.They believe they can control the game,But the juggler holds another pack. I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.I need someone to believe in, someone to trust. I'd rather trust a countryman than a townman,You can judge by his eyes, take a look if you can,He'll smile through his guard,Survival trains hard. I'd rather trust a man who works with his hands,He looks at you once, you know he understands,Don't need any shield,When you're out in the field. But down here,I'm so alone with my fear,With everything that I hear.And every single door, that I've walked throughBrings me back here again,I've got to find my own way. The priest and the magician,Singing all the chants that they have ever heard;and they're all calling out my name,Even academics, searching printed word. My father to the left of me,My mother to the right,Like everyone else they're pointingBut nowhere feels quite right. And I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.I need someone to believe in, someone to trust. I'd rather trust a man who doesn't shout what he's found,There's no need to sell if you're homeward bound.If I choose a side,He won't take me for a ride. Back insideThis chamber of so many doors;I've nowhere, nowhere to hide.I'd give you all of my dreams, if you'd help me,Find a doorThat doesn't lead me back againTake me away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtmudd Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Jeff Matthews said: Gabriel wrote some good lyrics: At the top of the stairs, there's hundreds of people,Running around to all the doors.They try to find, find themselves an audience;their deductions need applause. The rich man stands in front of me,The poor man behind my back.They believe they can control the game,But the juggler holds another pack. I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.I need someone to believe in, someone to trust. I'd rather trust a countryman than a townman,You can judge by his eyes, take a look if you can,He'll smile through his guard,Survival trains hard. I'd rather trust a man who works with his hands,He looks at you once, you know he understands,Don't need any shield,When you're out in the field. But down here,I'm so alone with my fear,With everything that I hear.And every single door, that I've walked throughBrings me back here again,I've got to find my own way. The priest and the magician,Singing all the chants that they have ever heard;and they're all calling out my name,Even academics, searching printed word. My father to the left of me,My mother to the right,Like everyone else they're pointingBut nowhere feels quite right. And I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.I need someone to believe in, someone to trust. I'd rather trust a man who doesn't shout what he's found,There's no need to sell if you're homeward bound.If I choose a side,He won't take me for a ride. Back insideThis chamber of so many doors;I've nowhere, nowhere to hide.I'd give you all of my dreams, if you'd help me,Find a doorThat doesn't lead me back againTake me away. chamber of 32 doors... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtmudd Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Jeff Matthews said: Gabriel wrote some good lyrics: At the top of the stairs, there's hundreds of people,Running around to all the doors.They try to find, find themselves an audience;their deductions need applause. The rich man stands in front of me,The poor man behind my back.They believe they can control the game,But the juggler holds another pack. I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.I need someone to believe in, someone to trust. I'd rather trust a countryman than a townman,You can judge by his eyes, take a look if you can,He'll smile through his guard,Survival trains hard. I'd rather trust a man who works with his hands,He looks at you once, you know he understands,Don't need any shield,When you're out in the field. But down here,I'm so alone with my fear,With everything that I hear.And every single door, that I've walked throughBrings me back here again,I've got to find my own way. The priest and the magician,Singing all the chants that they have ever heard;and they're all calling out my name,Even academics, searching printed word. My father to the left of me,My mother to the right,Like everyone else they're pointingBut nowhere feels quite right. And I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.I need someone to believe in, someone to trust. I'd rather trust a man who doesn't shout what he's found,There's no need to sell if you're homeward bound.If I choose a side,He won't take me for a ride. Back insideThis chamber of so many doors;I've nowhere, nowhere to hide.I'd give you all of my dreams, if you'd help me,Find a doorThat doesn't lead me back againTake me away. My favorite version... untouched when remastered.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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