jwc Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 So what the hell does it mean when the sound is "smooth" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 You know, not lumpy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 no granularity... distortion. specially distinguishable on the decay portion of notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 “Granularity” - interesting word. I’m a simple minded fool, so I just use the word “grain” - but yes - that’s it. Also, “mechanical”, “contrived”, as opposed to natural and organic - “real”. The sound should be rich and full, not incisive, clinical and irritating. This place has come full circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebuy Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 After reading this you forgot "Jocularity". Fun and good times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 16 hours ago, Deang said: “Granularity” - interesting word. I’m a simple minded fool, so I just use the word “grain” - but yes - that’s it. Also, “mechanical”, “contrived”, as opposed to natural and organic - “real”. The sound should be rich and full, not incisive, clinical and irritating. This place has come full circle. We all like our pizza the way we like it. For me, the sound should be like it comes from the band when you stand in front of it. It should sound like live music. That's why I like Klipsch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai2000 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 And as each human being hears differently - and then again this varies from day to day, mood etc. - such discussions - though fun - will go on endlessly 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave A Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 2 hours ago, mark1101 said: We all like our pizza the way we like it. For me, the sound should be like it comes from the band when you stand in front of it. It should sound like live music. That's why I like Klipsch. Exactly right. It should sound like the band is in front of you. I don't want warm fuzzy smooth mechanical contrived natural organic I want accurate reproduction. Non of these live bands use $500 fru fru beeswax hermetically sealed caps with silver dust sprinkled on them in any of their equipment you paid so much to go hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Actually, they use them in both their amps and instruments. How many of these type links would you like me to provide? https://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?202103-Red-or-Yellow-Jupiter-caps-for-Tweed-build And why do people continually conflate sound production with sound reproduction - or like to pretend that the quality of a part matters in every other engineering application except audio. Did you even read the data sheet on the previous page? Anything that costs more than $10 around here is voodoo, fru fru, pixie dust, etc. Some of you just embarrass yourselves. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilC Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Word of the day: Fru Fru good one! fru fru Fru Fru, derived from the phrase spelled "frou-frou" meaning fancy, elegant or very elaborate. The people in the wealthy section of town shops at all of the fru fru boutiques and stores. #uppity#wealhty#rich#upscale#elegant by Urban Dictionary October 24, 2008 Speaker cables costing more than zip cord are fru fru 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebes Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Russian PIO's. Mr. Klipsch designed his Khorns using paper-in-oil caps. Do the same. Reasonably priced too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorjen Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I put Duelund's in my VRD's. Worth every penny! I put Vcaps in my pCATS, worth every penny! Love Duelund and love Vcap too. Expensive as Hell but if one cannot hear the difference, something is amiss with their hearing. I can say that because my hearing is for Shite but I can still hear the difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I've been wanting to try some duelands but the price makes Jupiter's look like the kiddie park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muel Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I've had Duelunds (small values are closer to being affordable) as well as Jupiters in the NBS preamp. I can be very very happy with either but I can't imagine paying the kind of cash required for Duelunds of the values needed for crossovers. I now have Jupiters in almost all my speakers... no regrets... quite content! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blvdre Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Those connections are under stress. Redo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorjen Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 31 minutes ago, Blvdre said: Those connections are under stress. Redo! Only appears that way. 4 hours ago, muel said: I've had Duelunds (small values are closer to being affordable) as well as Jupiters in the NBS preamp. I can be very very happy with either but I can't imagine paying the kind of cash required for Duelunds of the values needed for crossovers. I now have Jupiters in almost all my speakers... no regrets... quite content! Could never afford to do an XO with either cap. Way too costly. I forgot I sent Craig Duelunds and clamps when he built my NBS a few years back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmjm Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I have jupiters in my dac cause I wanted that slightly rounded off, warm natural, vintage british sound (& love them) for the crossovers of my custom cornwalls I thought more jupiters might be too much so I went with rike audio s caps (crystal clear & totally neutral) I really think they let the characteristics of the equipment shine thru. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panelhead Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I used to purchase Teflon caps here in Houston. Most were Tex-Caps. Used in high temperature data acquisition ANALOG equipment. Good sound, but steel leads designed to be welded in place and not soldered. Some of the surplus Russian Teflon caps are steel lead also. When I searched the piles of vintage surplus I kept a magnet to check caps and resistors. I really doubt most well made film and foil caps sound differently. Even the metalized film and poly are low distortion. But the pictures of high end crossovers look very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 9 hours ago, Panelhead said: I used to purchase Teflon caps here in Houston. Most were Tex-Caps. Used in high temperature data acquisition ANALOG equipment. Good sound, but steel leads designed to be welded in place and not soldered. Some of the surplus Russian Teflon caps are steel lead also. When I searched the piles of vintage surplus I kept a magnet to check caps and resistors. I really doubt most well made film and foil caps sound differently. Even the metalized film and poly are low distortion. But the pictures of high end crossovers look very nice. Tin plated, or gold plated, steel leads are commonly used for resistors, diodes, caps, and transistors these days. No big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorjen Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Speaking of AudioCap Thetas. Built these B's about 15 years ago for a Cornwall refurb using AudioCap. GREAT sounding capacitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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