tube fanatic Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Interesting review. The amp measurements are not very inspiring but, as is mentioned, measurements never tell the real story about why certain amp/speaker combinations sound so outstanding: https://www.stereophile.com/content/borderpatrol-p21-exd-power-amplifier If I had a nickel for every "perfectly" measuring SS amp which sounded like absolute crap with most Klipsch speakers I could have retired many years sooner! Maynard 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Hasnt greg been using boarder patrol with his speakers (at audio shows) For many years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Yes, there is a relationship there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryk Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I am using the Border Patrol P21’s with my Cornwall 1’s. Not sure of the specs but they are dead quiet and sound great I first heard them awhile back at RMAF in the Volti room. I think the BP amps are all a good match for Klipsch speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Post pictures... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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derrickdj1 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Come on gent's. There are many amps that will sound just as good as these amps and save a few coins. The real question is how much should we pay for an amp paire to our horn speakers. It will vary by person but, the SQ will be fairly close to something 1/2 the price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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larryk Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Not sure what happened to the resolution of my previous pic. This should be a better one. There are definitely less expensive options but these amps have a grip on the bass that few 300b amps have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryk Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 The speakers are currently stock cornwall 1's although I just put in some new Dean Westcot XO's with Jupiter caps that made a huge difference. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlipschFan61 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Randyh said: but the price is what garantees it is the highest quality with no compromise Um...no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, KlipschFan61 said: Um...no. === In many instances - um yes - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlipschFan61 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, richieb said: In many instances - um yes - Spending more just means your have less. Believing that the more you spend guarantees 'highest quality with no compromises' is naive at best. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, KlipschFan61 said: Spending more just means your have less. Believing that the more you spend guarantees 'highest quality with no compromises' is naive at best. === I said in many instances not every instance. Buy a Best Buy receiver/amp and compare to a First Watt or Pass Labs and tell me that difference is being "naive". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlipschFan61 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, richieb said: Buy a Best Buy receiver/amp and compare to a First Watt or Pass Labs and tell me that difference is being "naive". No need to be rude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryk Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I think there are other less expensive options for 300b amps for Klipsch speakers. When I got the p21’s I had 4ohm speakers and needed a little more power than 8 watts. I have heard the Coincident Frankenstein 300b SET’s and they would be a great match with Klipsch speakers and are around $6000. iMHO the quality of the power supply makes a huge difference. Many of the lower priced 300b amps seem to sacrifice in this area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Western Electric is coming out with a new stereo 300B amp, probably early next year, with a reasonable price. I heard a prototype early in the summer and it was very good. Had a solid state PS though, all on a single PCB. The new 300B tubes will be rolling out before too long as well. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted October 18, 2018 Moderators Share Posted October 18, 2018 Edit; Just because I don't trust or care for the way he went about starting his business here or running it later, and things he claimed and said here it's best if I edited what I first posted. Sorry 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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