Mallette Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Have yet to find one that really works for me or reminds me of the best BBQ joints or home made. Usually buy Stubbs, but I rather doubt what is sold under his name now is what he made. Recommendations for when I don't want to go to the trouble of home made? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Mallette said: Recommendations for when I don't want to go to the trouble of home made? On grocery store shelves? I can't believe that you don't have some good ones on the shelf down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Lucilles BBQ sauce is not bad at all IMO. It can be readily found online and possibly in stores. Many seem to like sweet baby rays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 We may, but there are now dozens and I am very, very picky. Most seem to not be much different than Kraft..inoffensive, but hardly exciting. That's why I am asking my fellow BBQ freaks here as if there is anything worth a damn out there, I suspect you guys would be aware. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockhound Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I like Sweet Baby Rays, Jack Miller and Oklahoma Joe's. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 SBR isn't too bad, but sweetish. Haven't tried the other two. Not familiar with Lucille's either, but will look for all of these and see if one "speaks" to me. That works in almost uncanny ways when I am buying wine...but not so much with BBQ sauce yet. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted July 16, 2018 Moderators Share Posted July 16, 2018 I know it's crazy but I never use sauce on BBQ but sometimes on other things and sometimes on on chicken. One of the few I tried excluding the ridiculously priced stuff that I did like is the Sweet baby Rays, Sweet and Spicy, or the original. They make a few different ones but I think I have only tried 3 the last one was Hickory and Brown Sugar, I like the spicy the best. Any of them are better than anything from Kraft or other name brands. (that I have tried). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 26 minutes ago, Mallette said: We may, but there are now dozens and I am very, very picky. Most seem to not be much different than Kraft..inoffensive, but hardly exciting. That's why I am asking my fellow BBQ freaks here as if there is anything worth a damn out there, I suspect you guys would be aware. Dave Blues Hog, Rendezvous, and Corky's. Just to name a few. I normally make my own, cause I am picky as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 You might be able to satisfy yourself by adding whatever you think might help to something "stock," like Kraft. Add things as desired, such as cayenne pepper, honey, vinegar, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 4 hours ago, rockhound said: I like Sweet Baby Rays, Jack Miller and Oklahoma Joe's. I don't like tangy, I prefer sweet. I get Sweet Baby Rays BBQ sauce at Walmart and I like it for chicken and BBQ. There are other flavors but I haven't tried them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 34 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said: You might be able to satisfy yourself by adding whatever you think might help to something "stock," like Kraft. Add things as desired, such as cayenne pepper, honey, vinegar, etc. I wonder, Jeff. Perhaps my memories of the 50s and 60s are distorted. I recall sauces then I have never tasted anything like. I make a rather extraordinary Carolina vinegar thin red sauce, but can't seem to find what I am looking for in a Texas tomato based sauce. Here in my Texarkana a guy named Sparks made a Texas style sauce that was as thin as the Carolina stuff he packed his thin sliced BBQ round roasts in that I've never tasted anything else like. And, of course, I ran across the more traditional thicker ones across the years that were marvelous. But now, even the better BBQ places with outstanding meat seem to have rather less than stellar sauce. Maybe it's just old and failing taste buds. Perhaps the quest will never end, like that for the perfect chili relleno, chicken fried steak, etc. But, I suppose it is about the hunt, isn't it? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted July 17, 2018 Moderators Share Posted July 17, 2018 59 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said: You might be able to satisfy yourself by adding whatever you think might help to something "stock," like Kraft. Add things as desired, such as cayenne pepper, honey, vinegar, etc. We did exactly that years ago, but changed to starting with a ketchup base instead, it was cheaper for large batches, and we were adding so many different things it made no difference in the end. At one point I looked up many recipes, just to see what were the most common ingredients and started using those to fix the ketchup base changeling it for how we liked it. I did the same for rubs, look up some different recipes, it's a pretty regular list of starter indgrements. Tried many things and liked most of them, I should do it again and keep records this time, it's not like you make it everyday so it's hard to keep track of. I marinate alot so I am always trying different things with that also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted July 17, 2018 Moderators Share Posted July 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, Mallette said: Perhaps the quest will never end It never really does, with cooking there are always ways to improve the taste, it's fun to experiment, and you can eat the testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Well, sad I didn't get a picture of the brisket when it came out as it was pretty much textbook. The two 16 year olds cut it to pieces within minutes and it was being consumed before I realized I didn't get a picture. But here are a few from our Cossatot trip. Man, I LOVE the B&B Lump Mesquite charcoal. I get 6 or more hours of superb even heat from it in the Masterbuilt 7 in 1. And the Masterbuilt remains my ultimate versatile instrument good for everything from smoking to making morning coffee. Dave 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatever55 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 How about Dinosaur Bar-B-Que Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 8 hours ago, dtel said: I did the same for rubs, look up some different recipes, it's a pretty regular list of starter indgrements. I got a DIY rub you can try. It's the only one I use. 3 ingredients. 1 part Lowry's seasoned salt. 1 part Fajita Seasoning. 2 parts brown sugar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I don't like any sauce that masks the core flavor of the meat. Why don't you just use ketchup? JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstrickland1 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 https://www.melvinsbbq.com/store/barbecue-sauce-rubs If you can get this stuff it's worth the effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, JJkizak said: I don't like any sauce that masks the core flavor of the meat. Why don't you just use ketchup? JJK Because I serve others who like a good sauce, I like to chop leftover brisket with sauce for sandwiches, I like to glaze ribs and chicken with it...actually, quite a few reasons. I do not glaze brisket with it. My dry rub is as follows, with various alterations du jour and per the meat in question. 3/4 cup firmly packed dark brown sugar 3/4 cup white sugar 1/2 cup paprika 1/4 cup garlic powder 2 tablespoons ground black pepper 2 tablespoons ground ginger powder 2 tablespoons onion powder 2 teaspoons rosemary powder Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Might as well throw in the Carolina pork sauce. My Texas sauce is a variant of this with ketchup base. 3/4 cup apple cider vinegar (half and quarter cup water if you want less vinegar bite) 1/2 cup ketchup 1 tablespoon of dried minced onion (2 or 3 tablepspoons fresh if you prefer) 2 teaspoons dried minced garlic (tablespoon of fresh if you prefer) 1 tablespoon butter 1 tablespoon or a bit more ribbon cane, Steen's, or molasses 2 tablespoons Coleman's mustard 1 tablespoon brown sugar 2 teaspoons or so Worcestershire sauce 1 tablespoon smoked paprika or regular 2 or so teaspoons chili powder Bring to boil at least long enough to reconstitute dried ingredients. Blend in pot with immersion blender to liquefy the onions and garlic, then simmer another 20 minutes or so Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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