Stefano_2018 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Hi, I would like to replace the speaker wiring, what do you recommend? my speakers are the La Scala first series full alnico crossover is type AA BR Stefano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 If anybody in this forum recommends anything other than "zip cord", run for the hills...............😯 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano_2018 Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 can you give some examples? Stefano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 That was my tongue in cheek way of saying you have stumbled into a twilight zone of "wire = wire"......... IMHO, ideally you could use the same internal wire as the external wire you currently use. If that's cost prohibitive, some good OFC solid core wire of appropriate gauge would work fine. Just so you know, I am in the minority that believes all cables (speaker, interconnect, power) are NOT created equal. Pick your poison...... Shakey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I would suggest 16 awg in Oxygen Free Copper (OFC). Look for the OFC on the ad, if the wire doesn't spell out OFC it is the cheaper Copper Clad Aluminum (CCA ). +++ Monoprice does not have a 16 awg in OFC. Could somebody click on my link below and see if it works? The Knu website does not open for me. I have pop-ups blocked in my browser and a lot of filters enabled on my router and sometimes I think I block content that I want to come through. http://www.knukonceptz.com/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Clean all the terminals and contacts if needed, leave the stock wire alone unless it is corroded. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Mogami speaker cable in bulk by the foot. Proven in recording studios, cheap, OFC and sound great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, wvu80 said: I would suggest 16 awg in Oxygen Free Copper (OFC). Look for the OFC on the ad, if the wire doesn't spell out OFC it is the cheaper Copper Clad Aluminum (CCA ). +++ Monoprice does not have a 16 awg in OFC. Could somebody click on my link below and see if it works? The Knu website does not open for me. I have pop-ups blocked in my browser and a lot of filters enabled on my router and sometimes I think I block content that I want to come through. http://www.knukonceptz.com/ works for me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, jimjimbo said: works for me Thanks, Jim. I've been to the site many times but now it doesn't work with three different browsers leading me to believe I have my router's firewall locked down a little too far. I am extremely edgy about identity theft, hacks, junk email and spam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 52 minutes ago, Shakeydeal said: That was my tongue in cheek way of saying you have stumbled into a twilight zone of "wire = wire"......... IMHO, ideally you could use the same internal wire as the external wire you currently use. If that's cost prohibitive, some good OFC solid core wire of appropriate gauge would work fine. Just so you know, I am in the minority that believes all cables (speaker, interconnect, power) are NOT created equal. Pick your poison...... Shakey And, just so you know.....No one ever said that ALL cables are created equal. That is the perspective that you have taken based on a very small sampling of conversations that have occurred regarding this subject. IMHO, there is certainly a point of diminishing return based on construction and price. And, I agree with WCD, Mogami is very good....not exactly cheap, but well made. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 IMHO, there is certainly a point of diminishing return based on construction and price AGREED Mogami isn't dirt cheap, but you won't need logn lengths of it for the short runs of rewiring a speaker and you don't need large AWG. won't cost much at all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, jimjimbo said: And, just so you know.....No one ever said that ALL cables are created equal. That is the perspective that you have taken based on a very small sampling of conversations that have occurred regarding this subject. IMHO, there is certainly a point of diminishing return based on construction and price. And, I agree with WCD, Mogami is very good....not exactly cheap, but well made. Quote No one ever said that ALL cables are created equal By your own admission, someone has said it. Quote ....small sampling of conversations that have occurred regarding this subject. The sampling is NOT small. Take a poll. Zip cord is the name of the game around here. I agree there is diminishing returns with cables. Just like anything else under the sun. Shakey BTW, I am using a bi-wire run of the Knuconceptz 12 gauge cables too. I think it's great. I will probably rewire my khorns with the same stuff soon...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Stefano, just for clarity, are you referring to the internal wiring between the drivers and crossovers, or external speaker wire connection to the amp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Shakeydeal said: The sampling is NOT small. Take a poll. Zip cord is the name of the game around here. That might make a good forum poll. I think there is a solid group, particularly Klipsch owners who think lamp cord is all we need, just because PWK said it. I think there is also a substantial group who think cables are not all made equal, and more importantly that the sound quality is different from one cable to another. The exact percentage I don't know. +++ I really like the way Jim characterized the difference in cables as being a degree of diminishing returns. That is very well stated and it reflects my view as well. I just didn't have the words to say it as well as he did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Shakeydeal said: Take a poll. You go right ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Just now, wvu80 said: That might make a good forum poll. I think there is a solid group, particularly Klipsch owners who think lamp cord is all we need, just because PWK said it. I think there is also a substantial group who think cables are not all made equal, and more importantly that the sound quality is different from one cable to another. The exact percentage I don't know. +++ I really like the way Jim characterized the difference in cables as being a degree of diminishing returns. That is very well stated and it reflects my view as well. I just didn't have the words to say it as well as he did. I can't see spending thousands of dollars on speaker cables in my modestly priced system. However I have heard differences between speaker cables that were north of 500.00 a pair and chose the ones that best fit my taste. And I have heard some that were downright unlistenable. The take away is that cables are system dependent and can be the icing on the cake when everything else has been sorted out. Shakey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, jimjimbo said: You go right ahead. You of all people hang around here enough to know how that would turn out. Don't let your ego blind you......... Shakey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Shakeydeal said: You of all people hang around here enough to know how that would turn out. Don't let your ego blind you......... Shakey Well, if you are so confident in the result, then have at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Shakeydeal said: I can't see spending thousands of dollars on speaker cables in my modestly priced system. However I have heard differences between speaker cables that were north of 500.00 a pair and chose the ones that best fit my taste. And I have heard some that were downright unlistenable. The take away is that cables are system dependent and can be the icing on the cake when everything else has been sorted out. Shakey If you have specific recommendations either for or against a brand or type, please go ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Stefano_2018 said: can you give some examples? Stefano You asked for it....you got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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