ryanm84 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I bought my pair in October 2016 and they are from 1990. Nothing has been done to them by me or previous owners (the woofer trap doors are still sealed from the factory). But the veneer needed a little attention. What I normally see: what I got for about a week due to drying oil and a few days of travel for work: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Whitlow Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I bought my pair in October 2016 and they are from 1990. Nothing has been done to them by me or previous owners (the woofer trap doors are still sealed from the factory). But the veneer needed a little attention. What I normally see: what I got for about a week due to drying oil and a few days of travel for work: Those babies need corners.Drawings for false corners in Dope From Hope papers.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanm84 Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 Took the top hats off and removed the grilles (sides and top) so I could oil everything. Used Watco natural oil and a cheap foam brush to flooded all the surfaces. After letting them set for a bit I used a microfiber towel to remove excess. They are hanging out in the garage drying. I am so glad I got the set I got - walnut and cane go well together and the wood is just great with a fresh oil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Nice... that's the way to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanm84 Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 This next weekend I will put a lacquer over the finish even though it didn’t come that way. And even better clean off all the dust and dirt and tighten all the screws for the mid and tweeter, magnets,etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanm84 Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 I don’t argue that a corner would help but with 12 foot ceilings and a cavernous downstairs, I can’t really complain. My daughter is 13 so her room might get turned into my dedicated listening room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codewritinfool Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I used to use lemon oil on my horns because that's what the original owners used for 48 years, but it seemed the shine only lasted about a week or two. Switched to Howard Feed-N-Wax. Shine lasts much longer now. You might want to use Howard Restor-A-Finish first like they recommend. I haven't tried it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanm84 Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 I’m happy with the finish. Second time doing this. First time was on my refurb corns. Watco has worked well every time and a lacquer top will make it permanent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 You mentioned "flooding" the finish... do you really wet up the veneer or do you use the oil sparingly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanm84 Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 Flood. After it sits for a bit (10 mins maybe) I put some more on then wipe all the surfaces to remove the excess. Label says to allow 72 hours before applying a top coat. If you’re inclined to add one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktate Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I think you should put them in the corners you got. The way you got them sitting blocks half of the output of the bass bin can't be good. Looks like you got corners there to use. Use pipe foam to seal vertical back and horizontal parts of bass bin you will be impressed with the sound improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Those are nice looking cabinets. I have always liked the combination of walnut and cane cloth. Did you say that you have applied lacquer over an oil finish before? Did it work out okay? Was there any special prep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 While it's beyond the scope of this thread, I really can not see how OP is supposed to "clock the speakers into the corners". Doing so would require him to have the speaker that would splay outwards pointing away from the main LP. -------------------- Post pictures when you begin the top coat proceedure... I am interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I would think that lacquer is not compatible with oil finishes. I'm sure you'll check the label and the Internet. Start with an inconspicuous spot as everyone says. Are you using Deft, or a rattle can, or professional sprayer for lacquer? Just out of curiosity. OTOH I always recommend wipe-on varnishes. There is plenty on the Internet about it. Everyone here has heard my recipe. Wipe on, remove any excess, let dry over night. Scuff lightly with no-scratch Scotchbrite. Bat off the dust. Wipe on another thin coat, remove excess, let dry over night. Repeat for four days. After a week you can put on some Butcher's wax You're really investing about one hour a night and four hours total. You'll get a marvelous finish you can't get in one four-hour set of work. You'll see many variations on this. But it all comes down to thin coats and patience. WMcD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Does anyone ever use that French thingy? I always liked the look of that finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codewritinfool Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Does anyone ever use that French thingy?.As often as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanm84 Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 I’ve used lacquer on some hallway tables I built from walnut plywood and solid walnut. I didn’t notice any issues with applying lacquer over the top of them with a Watco oil finish (no wood stain) Forget what brand I used but it’s brush on which had me worried when I first used it. But following the instructions on how soon to reapply a second coat and the sanding done before the third gave great results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanm84 Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 6:13 PM, WMcD said: I would think that lacquer is not compatible with oil finishes. I'm sure you'll check the label and the Internet. Start with an inconspicuous spot as everyone says. Are you using Deft, or a rattle can, or professional sprayer for lacquer? Just out of curiosity. OTOH I always recommend wipe-on varnishes. There is plenty on the Internet about it. Everyone here has heard my recipe. Wipe on, remove any excess, let dry over night. Scuff lightly with no-scratch Scotchbrite. Bat off the dust. Wipe on another thin coat, remove excess, let dry over night. Repeat for four days. After a week you can put on some Butcher's wax You're really investing about one hour a night and four hours total. You'll get a marvelous finish you can't get in one four-hour set of work. You'll see many variations on this. But it all comes down to thin coats and patience. WMcD I have no issues with applying a top coat as I really think the right one really improves the look of wood and more importantly, helps keep it from drying out, maintains the color finish and makes ongoing maintenance a little easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanm84 Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 Probably hard to see but the work is done. Oiled and lacquered and back in their original positions. Heavy and awkward to move but fun to take them apart and see how they were constructed. Makes one think they could build a pair, maybe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I love that matte look, great job. Until you get inside that horn, I would imagine it looks easily produced for a wood worker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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