ron789 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Hi Gurus, Am new to the forum and trying to put a new system together to replace one the kids helped themselves to :-). Purchased KLIPSCH Speakers as follows Fronts 2- RF-7III , Center 1-RC-64III, Rears 2-R250S, Bass- 1-R112SW ( will add another base and or surrounds matching if needed and have second area by the pool to play simple outdoor AV and music so two zones.) Looking for suggestions on what I should use to drive these, room is 45x60 ft open area kitchen, living breakfast nook. Read on-line that I should get the speakers I want and then look for suggestions for how to drive them and thats where the choices started to make less sense. Appreciate the help and suggestions. Thank you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K5SS Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Those are some nice choices and congratulations on the new grear! The main tweak I would make is going with dual 15” subs at a minimum, that room is huge! I would also go with a refurbished model receiver that is a couple years old, to free up some of the budget, and get a 3 or 5 channel amplifier. I usually think upper end receivers are enough to drive Klipsch Reference speakers but due to the size of that room, I would imagine even the top receivers will be strained, driving 5 + speakers at level to fill a space that size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Congrats; great speakers Yeah ... upgraded my AVR about 2 years ago (Onkyo RZ810) ... of course it's outdated now Couple of things to keep in mind ... First, do you need pre-outs ... how about zone 2/3 ... Second, if you are using zone 2/3 as a 2-way setup with a seperate amp, watch the HDMI inputs versus "throughputs." On my Onkyo "only" HDMI 1-3 transfer to zone 2 ... some other receivers are even worse than that ... and of course this "fact" is only in the "small print." Still looking for one that transfers "all" inputs. Cheers, Emile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Big room, big amplification, big subs. I suggest an upper tier AVR and a multi channel amp or an AVP/amp combo. Bill 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TasDom Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Congrats on the new speakers and welcome to the forum. If you state your budget, that will greatly reduce all of the suggestions you are about to receive. I'm a separates guy so not much help with receivers /AVR's but Willand is spot on imo....... Good luck! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 +1 on separates. Buy an older processor and or multi channel amp if it's in the budget. Headroom is your friend in that huge room. Second the more bass in the huge place comment as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron789 Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 Thanks for the suggestions so far two things that stand out 1. Will move to the r-115SW sub 2. Budget is 1500 or so +,- 300 folks at crutchfield.com suggested ( I don't know if that is a good one or not?) I believe the collective wisdom of the group would be greater. Cambridge Audio Azur 851W Class XD Flagship Power Amplifier in Black 1699 by Cambridge Audio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilermaker86 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, ron789 said: Thanks for the suggestions so far two things that stand out 1. Will move to the r-115SW sub 2. Budget is 1500 or so +,- 300 folks at crutchfield.com suggested ( I don't know if that is a good one or not?) I believe the collective wisdom of the group would be greater. Cambridge Audio Azur 851W Class XD Flagship Power Amplifier in Black 1699 by Cambridge Audio Keep in mind that is an amplifier and you will still need an avr to drive everything. For example: Marantz 7011. It has audyssey xt 32 room correction and should be enough power to hold you over. Then you could add a second sub and amplifier down the road. Of course there are other brands like Dennon, Anthem, Nad, Yamaha Onkyo that have similar models. Do you have any Avr currently? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, ron789 said: Thanks for the suggestions so far two things that stand out 1. Will move to the r-115SW sub 2. Budget is 1500 or so +,- 300 folks at crutchfield.com suggested ( I don't know if that is a good one or not?) I believe the collective wisdom of the group would be greater. Cambridge Audio Azur 851W Class XD Flagship Power Amplifier in Black 1699 by Cambridge Audio Welcome to the Klipsch forums! You have selected some outstanding speakers. I would also suggest a 15" sub or two. We have a forum member here who is also a Klipsch dealer and he has some AVR's and amps as well. His reputation for service is outstanding and it seems everyone he deals with here comes away with great pricing. He knows what works well with Klipsch, he knows what people are buying, and he will give you honest advice, even if that means suggesting something he doesn't sell but it would be best for your needs. Contact Cory, who is @MetropolisLakeOutfitters. He will see this notification the next time he logs in and I'm sure he will say hi. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron789 Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 update successfully returned the R112SW Sub and got the R115SW based on feedback/opinion thank you The following avr was suggested and then to bi-amp the RF7iii's ................Thoughts opinions???? Denon AVRX4400H 9.2 Channel Full 4K Ultra HD Network AV Receiver with HEOS black, Works with Alexa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K5SS Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Buy refurbished and add another 15.. https://www.accessories4less.com/?type=&page=category&action=&id=avreceiver&skip_redirect_suffix=&mode=&search_query=&category=&thumb_sort=store_price.desc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaman Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Accessories4less.com will have a few processors capable of what you need for a few hundred bucks. Take the rest and buy yourself a nice five or seven channel amp so you can make the most of those Klipsch. I know you can run them on flea watt amps but the RF-7 will really come alive with 200 or more watts on them. A fellow in the Klipsch Owners Facebook group has a sweet Gen 3 Emotiva XPA-7 for sale. There are also several XPA-5 around. Very capable amps. Next time the extras and gimmicks take a leap forward, your amps are ready, just need to swap in your processor for the next adventure. You won't regret it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron789 Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 3:12 PM, K5SS said: Those are some nice choices and congratulations on the new grear! The main tweak I would make is going with dual 15” subs at a minimum, that room is huge! I would also go with a refurbished model receiver that is a couple years old, to free up some of the budget, and get a 3 or 5 channel amplifier. I usually think upper end receivers are enough to drive Klipsch Reference speakers but due to the size of that room, I would imagine even the top receivers will be strained, driving 5 + speakers at level to fill a space that size. thank you, put in one r115sw, in place of the r112sw will add another soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron789 Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, teaman said: Accessories4less.com will have a few processors capable of what you need for a few hundred bucks. Take the rest and buy yourself a nice five or seven channel amp so you can make the most of those Klipsch. I know you can run them on flea watt amps but the RF-7 will really come alive with 200 or more watts on them. A fellow in the Klipsch Owners Facebook group has a sweet Gen 3 Emotiva XPA-7 for sale. There are also several XPA-5 around. Very capable amps. Next time the extras and gimmicks take a leap forward, your amps are ready, just need to swap in your processor for the next adventure. You won't regret it. Appreciate the suggestion and pointing me to the owners facebook page, Emotiva 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaman Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Appreciate the suggestion and pointing me to the owners facebook page, EmotivaThere is also a second group run by the same group called KO Classifieds. People looking to buy or sell are advertising in there. There are a lot of good guys in these two groups too.TimSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalifornian Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 For the money find a refurbished Marantz SR7012 and call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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