Benjie Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 My new to me Chorus ii’s will be here in a couple of days! I bought them from a member here and they have had the Crites updates. The rest of my house I’m big time invested in Sonos and love them. I want to hook my Chorus ii’s up to my new (still in return period) Onkyo TX NR686 (works with Sonos certified). That way I can have the convenience of of my Sonos streaming in the palm of my hand, but still have WiFi. My concern is that the NR686 won’t have enough power??? I hear I need 200 watts to really make the speakers sound great. The Onkyo only provides100. Thanks for the education on this great forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I love the sound I get from SS amps and receivers. I have tried AVRs and newer amps, but nothing, IMHO, drives these speakers better than SS. The best I have heard my Chorus II sound was with the Luxman R117. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjie Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 Thanks for the response. I’m not familiar, but a quick google showed a r-115 for sale. I’m assuming though that it hasn’t enough power? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panelhead Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I might be wrong, but low output impedance is what controls the bass. 50 watts is plenty if good quality. Stiff power supplies, and low noise will make them sing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Damping factor and power supply reserves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjie Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 First I need to find out if I can add clean power to my Onkyo NR686 that will make the Chirus II’s Sing. If not it goes back this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 8 hours ago, Woofers and Tweeters said: The best I have heard my Chorus II sound was with the Luxman R117. The R-117 is a very special piece that I can make the same claim about my Heresys. 8 hours ago, Benjie said: Thanks for the response. I’m not familiar, but a quick google showed a r-115 for sale. I’m assuming though that it hasn’t enough power? Actually the R-115 has the same sound signature as the R-117 but with less power. With that said, it's "70w/ch" is more than enough to drive the Chorus IIs to ear bleeding levels in your average size room. Below is a quote from a review in hifi-classic.net. "The dual power amplifiers can deliver high currents. Although rated for only 70 watts continuous output into 8 ohms (from 20 to 20,000 Hz with no more than 0.03 percent total harmonic distortion), they are also rated to drive 2-ohm loads at up to 270 watts per channel for short periods. The large power transformer and filter capacitance give the receiver a 3-dB dynamic headroom over its rated power output into 8 ohms." http://www.hifi-classic.net/review/luxman-r-115-419.html Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktate Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 You wont need a lot of power I think what you got would work depends on a lot of factors . But you could try these. https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/onktxsr373/onkyo-tx-sr373-5.1-ch-x-80-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html#!specifications https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/intdtr204/integra-dtr-20.4-5.2-ch-x-80-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html#!more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Pioneer SC series if you require a receiver. https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Elite-Component-Receiver-SC-LX502/dp/B0725QQPSN Also look at the NAD D 7050 and their new amp with built in wifi and bluetooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjie Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 I found a very nice Luxman R-117 and it is on the way. Thanks for the great advice. I look forward to pairing it to my new speakers next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 That was quick. One of my biggest audio regrets is selling my R-117. Bill 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 7 hours ago, Benjie said: I found a very nice Luxman R-117 and it is on the way. Thanks for the great advice. I look forward to pairing it to my new speakers next week. That's great. You will have a chance to AB the Luxman and Onkyo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panelhead Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I hate to ask what a R-117 brings. The vintage gear is nice. Nice units cost more than new. There are dried out filter caps, scratchy pots, channel inbalance, and other issues in vintage gear. The Luxman is a premium unit. Used premium parts. Hopefully it has another 30 - 40 years left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Panelhead said: I hate to ask what a R-117 brings. The vintage gear is nice. Nice units cost more than new. There are dried out filter caps, scratchy pots, channel inbalance, and other issues in vintage gear. The Luxman is a premium unit. Used premium parts. Hopefully it has another 30 - 40 years left. All good points but if the price of entry is reasonable and it operates properly, he is in for a real treat. Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 To the OP; you know that you can go to a pro music shop and rent a 500x2 power amp for a day or two for very little money then you can see what some power can do with your loudspeakers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjie Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 Got the speakers setup this morning. I’m blown away and only using $100 Yamaha receiver. The Luxman should arrive late next week. Cant imagine how much better that will sound. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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willland Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Benjie said: Got the speakers setup this morning. I’m blown away and only using $100 Yamaha receiver. The Luxman should arrive late next week. Cant imagine how much better that will sound. I hope some of us(me) did not steer you wrong. Bill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 1:31 PM, Benjie said: Looks great, can't say what it sounds like. To qualify the quality: I have had a few pair of Forte (and FII), and love their sound quality and quantity. Placement is critical to bring out their magic. I have placed them X far away from Y and toed in A amount and moved all over the freaking room... until.. they produced a sound that is TOP SHELF..there is magic in the Forte. I believe the ChII will be similar. I have 2 pair of them right now and have not tried to place them where they will produce their best. Hardwood furniture, leather chairs, hardwood floors, glass and chit will reflect sound. My best sound is in a room that soaks all the sound it can (carpet, cloths seating, acoustic ceiling tile, etc...). The Luxman has plenty of power and will send quality Hz to the Chorus, and the CHII are large and will produce large sounds. If you can, you might work on placement to bring forth quality that most don't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Placement is critical to bring out their magic. Yessir there is magic in the Forte. I strongly feel THIS is the speaker for converting the masses. It is soooooooo good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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