pzannucci Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Ah sorry, thought it was the HW321. I didn't go back to re-read. Compared to the FXE12-4, I would expect the HW321 to provide much better extension in a moderate box size with a small change in efficiency. I'd look to a 4 ohm woofer for Forte replacement unless you are not using internal crossover of the Forte. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 Got some (select; no knots) pine wood (1x10's) and will build a box for the 510's ... picking up some walnut veneer tomorrow. (Haha; wife is out of town for 4 days ) Think I will live with the anemic Forte's until I can find a set of KPT-684's ... or maybe I'll build a box for double Caire woofers Cheers, Emile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 12 hours ago, Emile said: Got some (select; no knots) pine wood (1x10's) and will build a box for the 510's ... picking up some walnut veneer tomorrow. (Haha; wife is out of town for 4 days ) Think I will live with the anemic Forte's until I can find a set of KPT-684's ... or maybe I'll build a box for double Caire woofers Cheers, Emile Flying under the radar while she's gone or just something to do? When my SO is away, she always comes back to something new but of course, I never tell her. All of the sudden there is an "Oh". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 hours ago, pzannucci said: When my SO is away, she always comes back to something new but of course, I never tell her. All of the sudden there is an "Oh". Haha ... do exactly the same ... and many times she did not even notice "what" I bought 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 OK; chopped up my wood with a table saw ... fits perfectly. One cabinet done ... DARN ... brad nailer is "shot." Last nail doubled up and can't get it out Jeez; not going to spend $100 to get another nailer next box is going together with polyurethane glue ... damn; a lot slower ... and I am picking up veneer tomorrow. The wife is only gone till Friday probably will catch hell since I "played" and did not get "her stuff" done Time for wine Cheers, Emile 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 On 11/30/2018 at 6:58 PM, Emile said: OK; got a set of K-510/K-691 (=B&C DE 75's) for my "small" stereo room. (Have KPT-904's in my "main" room, so I know what they can sound like ) Using Forte I's as "bass bins." (Xover >500Hz to the horns and <800Hz to the Forte's.) Sound is good, but it seems the 510 horns are just in a different league than the Forte's ... so; looking for suggestions on another "bass bin." Setup is in a "small" stereo room ... do NOT have space for a regular Klipsch bass bin (like the dual 15" in my KPT-904's, forget the actual # of the bins). Just wondering if there is a "small" folded woofer that can give me 30-800Hz, or a direct (ported or sealed) box. Thanks, Emile Add-on ... using a Marantz 1060 on the horns and a Kenwood KR-4070 on the Forte's, xovers set by a miniDSP 2x4. Build an H-Frame OB using the Emminence Alpha 15 pro driver and you are done. Some of the best Bass I have heard up to 100 HZ.....................Not sure about going up to 800 HZ I currently have oris horns on an H-frame bass and am very happy, Crossing over at 150Hz using a marchand xm9 active 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 55 minutes ago, joessportster said: Build an H-Frame OB using the Emminence Alpha 15 pro driver Specs say 51-1700HZ ... so think it would be OK. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 12 hours ago, Emile said: OK; chopped up my wood with a table saw ... fits perfectly. One cabinet done ... DARN ... brad nailer is "shot." Last nail doubled up and can't get it out Jeez; not going to spend $100 to get another nailer next box is going together with polyurethane glue ... damn; a lot slower ... and I am picking up veneer tomorrow. The wife is only gone till Friday probably will catch hell since I "played" and did not get "her stuff" done Time for wine Cheers, Emile Better to ask forgiveness but you'll be pretty much done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 20 hours ago, Emile said: Specs say 51-1700HZ ... so think it would be OK. Thanks Many speaker drivers, in the correct cabinet, will play lower than their fs would indicate. Those will play low enough, but will cost a bit in efficiency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 OK; now I've got "Fortehorns." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornukopia Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Your 510 horn cabinet looks good. Have you achieved better tonal balance by adjusting your miniDSP settings for the tweeter? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, Khornukopia said: Your 510 horn cabinet looks good. Have you achieved better tonal balance by adjusting your miniDSP settings for the tweeter? Thanks ... cabinet needs a couple more coats of oil Have not done much playing with miniDSP adjustments ... haha ... waiting for my wife to leave for a couple of days Cheers, Emile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parlophone1 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 So you have survived the first encounter with wife 😲, I reckon that second one would be pushing your luck 😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyrc Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Is this room on the ground floor? One guy ripped up the floor in a few contiguous rooms and dug out a huge pit in the dirt below, then built a strong, huge wood horn in that pit, and had it "speak" through a metal grille in the new flooring he put in. The grille was as wide as the listening room. There are photos of this floating around somewhere. This could be your next project! You would be well advised to discuss it with your wife first. P.S. Pat Boone and Harry Browne would suggest you bury some gold down there while you are at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 12 hours ago, garyrc said: This could be your next project! Haha ... let me "sleep" on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blvdre Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 4:19 AM, garyrc said: Is this room on the ground floor? One guy ripped up the floor in a few contiguous rooms and dug out a huge pit in the dirt below, then built a strong, huge wood horn in that pit, and had it "speak" through a metal grille in the new flooring he put in. The grille was as wide as the listening room. There are photos of this floating around somewhere. This could be your next project! You would be well advised to discuss it with your wife first. P.S. Pat Boone and Harry Browne would suggest you bury some gold down there while you are at it. This one? https://gizmodo.com/5025867/horn-subwoofer-takes-up-crazy-mans-entire-basement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Yes went into a house here and saw this open area above one of the walls in the living room. After a better look, I realized the whole side wall, about 4 feet from the ceiling was a horn. It was a good, well made convex shape on the bottom and sides (exponential?), fairly deep, extending way into the next room. I'm not sure the home's owner really knew what it was other than a nice embellishment to enhance the looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyrc Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Blvdre said: This one? https://gizmodo.com/5025867/horn-subwoofer-takes-up-crazy-mans-entire-basement No, but similar. The one I was writing about had nothing visible in the listening room but the metal grillwork (and the midrange and tweeter horns). Here's a version from Philips of the Netherlands: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 8 hours ago, garyrc said: No, but similar. The one I was writing about had nothing visible in the listening room but the metal grillwork (and the midrange and tweeter horns). Here's a version from Philips of the Netherlands: That fits the small folded horn thread title 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 On 12/4/2018 at 6:13 PM, joessportster said: Build an H-Frame OB still do not have a good solution ... so; an OB is a good possibility. ( @Marvel also suggested it ... thanks!) Open baffle looks sexier than an H-frame. But ... NO CLUE on panel dimensions for either ??? OK; one more thought ... found a Yamaha dual 18" pro cabinet (SW218V) pretty cheap. Box is too big for the room, so I can "chop it up." Any idea if these woofers (Yamaha Jay70110) would be usable? Many thanks, Emile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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