oldtimer Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 It's in the video. If you want to believe it. Anti-China is not that difficult to believe though. You can bet it isn't US corporations funding it. It certainly isn't Ivanka, or others in the family since all of their products were made in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 31 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said: {EDIT: BTW, who funded that video piece?} That is Chris, the guy who does China Uncensored. He was hit pretty hard by the fairly recent actions of Youtube to de-monitize content creators who posted controversial content so he started a second channel, America Uncensored. America Uncensored usually does not address China related issues. Politically he is not left or right leaning, although I would put him as leaning towards the left. He is more of a critic of the Chinese government and their human rights abuses more than anything. AFAIK the videos are funded by Youtube ads, and he has a Patreon page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, wvu80 said: I would put him as leaning towards the left. Bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOwn Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Man that Trump guy is one ugly Ombre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, wvu80 said: He is more of a critic of the Chinese government and their human rights abuses more than anything. So that makes him "left.?" LMAO so the "right " just doesn't care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, oldtimer said: So that makes him "left.?" LMAO so the "right " just doesn't care? I didn't say that video made him left leaning. My opinion of his political leanings and the topic in the Youtube vid link I posted are not related. Chris is a heavy critic of China, it's policies, the Chinese government and its human rights abuses. That's his angle, not American politics except as it is topical, as it was in this particular case. I posted that particular video because it was related to the thread topic and that information had come out just that afternoon and no one had commented on it yet. The video does not state an opinion I necessarily share, it was just something I came across which was timely to the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Yet you state he "leans left"---bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Yet you state he "leans left"---bullshit. I've been watching China Uncensored for several years now so my opinion is NOT based on a single Youtube vid. I only offered my impression because Zen asked how the video was funded, suggesting some political group may have funded it. it's only my opinion, I certainly could be wrong. My opinion is that Chris is politically very neutral and as I've reiterated several times his angle is criticism of China, not American politics. If you disagree, that;s OK, it doesn't hurt my feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I don't disagree with that. Leans left though is a total load of crap. I also answered Zens funding question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 49 minutes ago, wvu80 said: although I would put him as leaning towards the left. Once again. Your own words. Total spouting of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Let's tackle it this way. What exactly makes you think he "leans left?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Let's tackle it this way. What exactly makes you think he "leans left?" I give you full credit, that's intelligent question, instead of just crying "bullshit" in every post which negates meaningful discussion. That one I'll address, but I don't think you'll like the answer because it's a fuzzy answer, not concrete. I've watched China Uncensored for years so I've seen hundreds of his videos. I watch them because I feel I get education and entertainment at the same time, he address important issues the major media outlets don't. I don't see Chris taking a stand on American politics because he was about the same person during the Obama administration and our current one and he is has been critical in his typical sardonic way of our government's response to human rights abuses. He doesn't attack any president. I said IF he leans either way it might be slightly left, but that makes him very solidly in the middle. Few people are on the extremes of any bell curve on every subject, most of us are fluid. I consider myself a fiscal conservative and socially liberal which means like most of us, you can't just label a person and expect that to be the dominant position on any given subject. My opinion his his political leanings are ambivalent, and if I'm wrong that wouldn't surprise me. Chris does a good job on his videos of bringing issues to the front without appearing openly left or right leaning. All I know is I like his videos and I learn from them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jirachi Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 On 12/13/2018 at 1:28 PM, Thaddeus Smith said: titillating titmouse titanic titular big **** Don't mind me.. just conducting some research.. big tits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 This is all put together much better than a Mexico city Soap Opera. We give and take to keep the humiliation at bay on any country that actually carries a bat to the plate. Its like the last little bit of decency each country tosses to make the scene forgetable. We will get some favorable trade numbers out of all of this, and you have to give our side a little credit for this push on China, which has been way past due. Having said that, this is our way of getting back for the calcium islands that we really can't do much about, short of a major conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 11 hours ago, wvu80 said: I give you full credit, that's intelligent question, instead of just crying "bullshit" in every post which negates meaningful discussion. That one I'll address, but I don't think you'll like the answer because it's a fuzzy answer, not concrete. Sorry about that. We have to realize we have different communication styles, having grown up in different parts of the world. Saying bullshit has always been a shorthanded way of asking, "please elaborate" in my neck of the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 23 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Saying bullshit has always been a shorthanded way of asking, "please elaborate" in my neck of the woods. Bullshit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 My friend from North Carolina often uses the long form---"I'm calling bullshit." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Oh, no.... I was calling bullshit, not bullshit !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Has anyone pondered the irony that saying bullshit "negates meaningful discussion" on a forum that owes its existence to the work of a man who pioneered the "bullshit" lapel button? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 18 minutes ago, oldtimer said: My friend from North Carolina often uses the long form---"I'm calling bullshit." === obviously a “southern gentleman” — 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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