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RF-7 GEN 1 with upgraded DEAN G NETWORKS VS CHORUS II

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I have the opportunity to get either pair of the these speakers for about the same cost. these would be for strictly music and I like mostly rock and reggae.

how do the 2 differ sonically? I wont be able to compare the 2 as the RF7 are a road trip away and the chorus are local. heard lots of good things about both.

do the upgraded networks in the RF7'S make a big difference?  

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Welcome to the Madness

 

For Rock I would bet the RF-7 would shine.............The Chorus are great to though with pretty much any genre. I hate to say it but it will boil down to YOUR preference In sound. The upgraded Networks will make a difference but you wont know that as you did not hear them before the network upgrade. 

 

 

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I vote for the Chorus II... my favorite after LaScalas. I just enjoy the bass from a 15 inch woofer. I say that, while never having heard the RF7s.

 

Bruce

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6 minutes ago, Marvel said:

I vote for the Chorus II... my favorite after LaScalas. I just enjoy the bass from a 15 inch woofer. I say that, while never having heard the RF7s.

 

Bruce

I have heard and owned RF7s, each Gen, and the chorus IIs get my vote. 

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I've owned both (stock crossovers) and I would vote chorus. So much more detail in the 3-way chorus. The tractrix horns are great. I was extremely disappointed in the rf7. I had to hook up a 200 watts per channel amp just to hear vocals better.

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3 hours ago, dtr20 said:

 I was extremely disappointed in the rf7. I had to hook up a 200 watts per channel amp just to hear vocals better.

 

That was my impression when I had a pair of original 7's, had my 200 watt Sunfire Receiver driving them and seemed under-powered, really don't know how people drive them with lower watt AVR's. 

 

 

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The best choices I believe would be the chorus. Personally I never could listen to a two way for long periods of time. I have quartets, the smallest in the line and it does a very good job with raggae at moderate to high volume. 

With the higher effencency of chorus , aught to get you there.

Cornwall with a sub would be a different. 

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Ch2's in good shape average about $732.  I'm not sure what RF-7 I's go for, probably near the same money.

 

The difference between the two technically is the Ch2 is a 3-way and the RF-7 is a two-way.  I've not heard the Chorus II's so I hesitate to say which is best for the kind of music you like.  I'd follow the suggestions of those who have owned them.

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I have chorus IIs and I will never get rid of them, my son had rf7 s. The chorus II hands down no contest.

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200 wpc for RF-7’s? I ran mine with 8 wpc, 15 wpc, 30 wpc, and 60 wpc. 

 

A pair of modified RF-7’s sound quite a bit better than stock. 

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The Chorus are less common. If they are in good condition I would recommend them.

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Best way to go, buy both and compare. Keep the model you like best.

 

I have both DeanG modded RF-7s (90% movies) and stock Chorus IIs (music). IMO, the Chorus II presents vocals better because of its midrange horn. I'm not saying the 7 is poor with vocals, just different. Modding the 7s made a very nice change to my ears.

 

If you choose to only buy one pair and you're upgrading from a smaller speaker, you'll like what you hear no matter which you choose.

 

Here is some more reading on this:

 

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for what it is worth two ten inch woofers are never going to equal a single fifteen inch woofer. They simply do not have the piston area of a fifteen. Further you have a larger mid horn in the Chorus ll.   If you want a bump in performance just upgrade your Chorus. You can start by adding some brace work to the cabinets especially the front and rear baffle. After that there is a lot you can do but that will be a good place to start.

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For rock and reggae I'd go with the Chorus ... as James said, you cannot beat the 15" woofer :)  I have (modified) RF-7's ... nice but not even close to 15" Pro woofers (in my KPT-904's  ...  think they are the almost the same as the Chorus II ones).

Cheers, Emile

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Modified how? Curious, because tacking on that extra resistor isn’t the same as doing the whole high pass. 

 

Two 10’s have about the same or more surface area than a 15. The passive radiator is basically a port. 

 

The Chorus II always sounds boomy when I hear it. I actually think the Forte II sounds more balanced with a tighter bass. 

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2 hours ago, Deang said:

The Chorus II always sounds boomy when I hear it.

 

Not nearly as boomy as a Cornwall.

 

I had a pair of Chorus II here for a week or so and liked them a lot. Unfortunately they were just passing thru with the Klipsch express.

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18 hours ago, Marvel said:

[Chorus II is] Not nearly as boomy as a Cornwall.

That was my experience as well. Cornwall bass (in a stock vertical decorator) sounded uncontrolled at higher volume settings compared to a stock Chorus II.

21 hours ago, Deang said:

The Chorus II always sounds boomy when I hear it. I actually think the Forte II sounds more balanced with a tighter bass.

I must like a slight 'boom' in the low end.

After comparing Forte II and Chorus II side by side I liked the Chorus II better. Not by leaps and bounds, just better.

 

Sorry for getting off topic. Back to the RF-7 / Chorus II thoughts.

It's been a long time since my Chorus IIs and DeanG'd RF-7s have been in the same room for a back and forth. Should do that again soon.

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Since I moved to the tiny house on the farm 7 years ago the Dean modded Chorus IIs have been in storage. In 2019 they will get back in play once an addition is complete. I have only heard stock RF 7.

 

The Chorus II is a piece of history being said it was the last speaker design PWK was actively involved in.

 

No wrong answer here. If I never found the Chorus IIs and bought RF 7 which were under consideration I probably would have sold them in the downsizing process.

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