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17 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said:

I remember going into a record store to see that most of the available CD's were $20, with a VERY limited choice, mostly classical. Meanwhile, you could buy an LP for $5.00, just to give you some perspective. Now, LP's cost $30-40 and CD's are about $10-15. What a world!!

 

Yes, now is a great time to buy CDs.

In 10-15 years we will probably face the situation that we have now with vinyl, the resurrection of CDs 🙂

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9 hours ago, parlophone1 said:

 

Yes, now is a great time to buy CDs.

In 10-15 years we will probably face the situation that we have now with vinyl, the resurrection of CDs 🙂

According to an inflation calculator, I was paying, with tax included, $55.00 per CD back then, based on today's inflated dollars. Also my Sony CD player was $2,500 in today's dollars. How soon we forget.

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On 5/16/2019 at 2:45 PM, ClaudeJ1 said:

A better story was when my wife walked into the store to also buy me my very first CD to go with the Sony player (One on One by Bob James/Earl Kliugh), the lady asked her if we actually owned a CD player. "Of course I do, why would I buy a CD if I didn't a player for it?" The lady said that some people had bought CD's and returned them all scratched when they tried to play them on their Vinyl TURNTABLE!! (as seen on the first "Austin Powers" movie) As if the huge hole in the center wasn't enough of a CLUE. Talk about clueless consumers, OMG!

 

I was a young teenager when the CDs came out in Europe, I believe it was in 1983/84. CD-players cost more than a €1000 (let's say a months worth of wages), so I couldn't afford it at all. CDs cost €20 (or more), vinyl cost €10. So I continued to buy vinyl records until in my first or second year at university. I still have those albums (most of U2, Prince, Van Morrison etc.)

The CD sound is obviously superior to that of vinyl, but the small size of the CD and its fragile plastic case has always been an annoyance to me, so here are a couple of quick tips to make the CD even more attractive, if anyone in the industry is reading this:

 

  1. Improve the plastic casing: I hate it when you drop the cd case, that the plastic piece of the hinge brakes of.
  2. I hate it when the plastic teeth brake of (holding the cd in place in the case). If 3 or more break off, the cd floats around in its case and gets damaged.
  3. I hate it that I need a magnifying glass to read the CD booklet
  4. The small CD case simply is too small to really allow to enjoy the sometimes beautiful artwork of the albums

 

Of course, many alternative packaging exists for CDs, from cheap cardbox sleeves to expensive audiophile boxes, but to my feeling nothing can beat the size of a standard vinyl album.

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2 hours ago, ILI said:

 

I was a young teenager when the CDs came out in Europe, I believe it was in 1983/84. CD-players cost more than a €1000 (let's say a months worth of wages), so I couldn't afford it at all. CDs cost €20 (or more), vinyl cost €10. So I continued to buy vinyl records until in my first or second year at university. I still have those albums (most of U2, Prince, Van Morrison etc.)

The CD sound is obviously superior to that of vinyl, but the small size of the CD and its fragile plastic case has always been an annoyance to me, so here are a couple of quick tips to make the CD even more attractive, if anyone in the industry is reading this:

 

  1. Improve the plastic casing: I hate it when you drop the cd case, that the plastic piece of the hinge brakes of.
  2. I hate it when the plastic teeth brake of (holding the cd in place in the case). If 3 or more break off, the cd floats around in its case and gets damaged.
  3. I hate it that I need a magnifying glass to read the CD booklet
  4. The small CD case simply is too small to really allow to enjoy the sometimes beautiful artwork of the albums

 

Of course, many alternative packaging exists for CDs, from cheap cardbox sleeves to expensive audiophile boxes, but to my feeling nothing can beat the size of a standard vinyl album.

I share your interest in knowing the artists names who play the instruments, the lyrics, the production, etc. In other words, all the  information. They could have molded into the plastic a magnifying loupe for free, of which, I purchased many. The best loupe you can get is an old manual SLR 50 mm lens that can be had for $15-25, especially the old Pentax screw mount lenses.

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I remember hearing my first CD in around  1981 at The Sound Well in Berkeley CA. They had a huge in store event with some guy from Sony there and demonstrated the player through some super high end amp

and the big KEF speakers. Everyone was ooohing and ahhhing and then I spoke up and said “am I the only person here who thinks this sounds like crap?”  Early digital was AWFUL.

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38 minutes ago, Allan Songer said:

Everyone was ooohing and ahhhing and then I spoke up and said “am I the only person here who thinks this sounds like crap?”  Early digital was AWFUL.

 

Subtlety and Studebakers seldom go hand in hand.

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Speaking of tape... still is being made...

 

Interesting comments here:

 

https://www.atrtape.com/sound-of-tape

 

As has been mentioned, original tapes can sound wonderful. Definitely more to maintain to make it work.

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