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Would "YOU" purchase the "NEW" Cornwall IV or Chorus III

If you could have Klipsch build you one pair, which would you buy?  

103 members have voted

  1. 1. Please choose 1 pair of speakers from the following choices

    • Chorus III
      42
    • Cornwall IV
      39
    • None of the above
      22
  2. 2. Would you be willing to sacrifice the current Forte III from production in 2020 or 2021 to make this happen?

    • YES
      58
    • NO
      45
  3. 3. Which of the following Klipsch speakers do you currently own, or have owned in the past? (multiple choice)

    • Cornwall I/II/III
      54
    • Chorus I/II
      43
    • Forte I/II/III
      54
    • None of the above
      21


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The spec sheet for the KPT-8060H pro surround 2 way lists a K702 horn. Probably the same horn, but with a different compression driver. We will know more in a week..

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1 hour ago, avguytx said:

So they are an all new mid horn I take it? Wow...$6,000 MSRP. I guess that can help pay for retooling a mid horn....if that's what they did. I'm sure they will sound great.

 

Just bumped them outta my price range..............will we see a "purge" of CW III with users for the new ones on the used and demo market?

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1 hour ago, jjptkd said:

The 702 is the same horn that's in the forte III been around quite awhile even before the new forte in pro speakers

 

You're thinking of the 703-M.  At least that's what's in Forte III and some permanent install pro stuff.

 

As has been mentioned, the 702 isn't new but it's mumps evidently now are.

 

Unless the announcement has a typo and it's supposed to be 703-M.  Now have to wait for another answer, too...

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2 hours ago, avguytx said:

So they are an all new mid horn I take it? Wow...$6,000 MSRP. I guess that can help pay for retooling a mid horn....if that's what they did. I'm sure they will sound great.

$3K each...already exceeds the total of what I payed for 6 pre-owned Chorus II's. Apples to oranges, I know. Oh well, knew they would not come cheap. I really do hope they are 6X better. Not that I have faith in that. Just that it would really be something.

 

Holding out for more info and reviews on the new midrange. That was the one thing that to me was in dire need of an update. 

 

My local Certified Klipsch Heritage  Dealer was one of the first in the country to have set up in the showroom the AK6 Klipschorn. (The La Scala AL5 were my favs.) I may just get a chance to listen soon after Rocky Mountain.

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2 hours ago, Badger_Erich said:

 

Just bumped them outta my price range..............will we see a "purge" of CW III with users for the new ones on the used and demo market?

Depending upon location, think so yet will take Abit of time. May take anywhere from a couple of months to a couple of years... guess.

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Brand
Klipsch
Frequency Response
34 Hz - 20 kHz
 
Power
400 Watts
 
Woofer Bass Driver Size (mm)
581 mm
 
Midrange Size mm
44.5 mm
 
Tweeter
25 mm
 
Impedance (Ω)
8 Ω
 
Sensitivity
102 dB
 
Item Sold As
Pair
 
Klipsch Series Heritage
 
Subwoofer Size
15 Inch
 
Crossover Frequency
HF: 5 kHz | MF: 800 Hz
 
Warranty
Australian Manufacturers Warranty
 
Product Dimension (H×W×D)
907.1 x 642.9 x 392.9 mm (ea)
 

Product Weight

44.5 Kg (ea)

 

 
 
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1 hour ago, glens said:

 

You're thinking of the 703-M.  At least that's what's in Forte III and some permanent install pro stuff.

I'm 99% certain they are the same horn possibly a different mid driver but dont really see the reasoning behind a driver change unless it would be phased over to the forte III as well. Guess we'll have to wait and see I am happy to see the new horn in the Cornwall though long overdue imo.

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Edit:  [I posted this before I saw the awesome detective work that was done and the bag was finally out of the cat.]

 

Hey der.

 

I was told by a high level marketing guy, the official announcement date would be  8/23..

 

I don't want to announce anything before Klipsch does, they are very, very good to the Museum.

 

Maybe there is an engineer around here who knows what is ok to say @Chief bonehead

 

Or a knowledgable dealer who has received official notice that he is allowed to pass it on to customers @MetropolisLakeOutfitters

 

I do know this (wait, I can't remember i am allowed to say that yet.

 

Okay, I think I can say this, if you are on the fence about going to RMAF, for sure go, trust me.

 

If you can't make that go to Bonehead's Education Event in October I will be posting more about on Friday on here.

 

Lastly, there something else on the near horrizon, I will try and get a date for that announcement.

 

 

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The Poll is flawed because it doesn't take into account price.  A company has got to be able to amortize R&D

 

For the right price, and the right quantities, Roy can build you anything you want, and they will be as good or better than anything out there.

 

MLB baseball stadium, no priblem, Largest movie theaters in the world, no prioblen.  Near field professional studio monitors, no problem, revitalize the Forte, no priblem.

 

If you get 20 people together, willing to pay a corrisponding price for Chorus given the cost of the AL5 LS and the AK6 Khorn,  (prepaid as with any custom order) and give Roy 6 months to a year to source the right components, go through the prototypes, design a new network, find some 8 ga wire and produce something  Roy thinks is worthy of putting the Chorus name on and faithful to  PWK's design and core principlesI, I bet he would think seriously about it.

 

But @Chief bonehead is very busy trying to figure out how to make pro sound good in the home, and more importantly, how to make hip-hop, rap and disco sound good on Cornwalls and La Scalas.

 

 

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5 hours ago, avguytx said:

So they are an all new mid horn I take it? Wow...$6,000 MSRP. I guess that can help pay for retooling a mid horn....if that's what they did. I'm sure they will sound great.

It isn't the cost if retooling, it is the cost of R&D, plus the increased cost of any components.  You have to factor in the amortization of R&D.  It's not cows or corn they are selling.

 

You take the number of hours of Roy and his team, times cost per hour, plus cost of lab and physical plant associated with the lab, divided by anticipated number units sold over the anticipated life cycle of that product and that number (R&D cost) has to be added to every speaker.  At least if you want to be in business more than a few years, let alone 8 decades.

 

Otherwise, no more @Chief bonehead, no more lab in Hope . . . .

 

To hard to think about.

 

I heard Roy thinks they sound "pretty good."

 

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1 hour ago, dwilawyer said:

The Poll is flawed because it doesn't take into account price.  A company has got to be able to amortize R&D

I agree with all of your recent comments above. In my defense I am not a research specialist. I am a Klipsch enthusiast. My intent of the poll all along has always been to generate interest in a "new" product and find where most others here place their preferences regardless of price.  The poll was started long before any public information about any "new" product rumors or announcements. Hindsight. Good job by Klipsch keeping the wrap on this though. 

 

1 hour ago, dwilawyer said:

I don't want to announce anything before Klipsch does

I am willing to edit, or mute if it helps the cause. Just seemed like a good thread for me to post what comes up on google search. Well, now that there is something to actually search that is.

 

1 hour ago, dwilawyer said:

But @Chief bonehead is very busy trying to figure out how to make pro sound good in the home, and more importantly, how to make hip-hop, rap and disco sound good on Cornwalls and La Scalas.

I was busy eating popcorn during that epic event.

I thought it important to note here that in my opinion, being a carpenter and all, I happen to really enjoy things made out of wood. I get a lot of enjoyment out of the consumer (home) versions of Klipsch speakers vs their pro counter parts. Those beautiful cabinets keep me on the hook. I live among my speakers.

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57 minutes ago, 314carpenter said:

The poll was started long before any public information about any "new" product rumors or announcements. Hindsight. Good job by Klipsch keeping the wrap on this though.

 

Are you sure that your poll wasn't the impetus for the update?  :^)

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5 minutes ago, glens said:

 

Are you sure that your poll wasn't the impetus for the update?  :^)

Pretty sure many months prior to this poll.

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They might've had it ready for some time and decided only now to phase it in...

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7 hours ago, 314carpenter said:

My intent of the poll all along has always been to generate interest in a "new" product and find where most others here place their preferences regardless of price.  

I know it was, and I thought it was a great way to think about it.  Several people would like a next generation Chorus.  I was faced with knowing a little bit about the CW IV (only because the Museum is going to have a Musuem Edition soon) and we are very aware the Klipsch likes to times these things a certain way to let dealers know, and I am sure inventory and production concerns, etc. but I did want you guys to know that they did have something on the horizon exactly like you were talking about.

 

They do listen, I'm not quite sure how, I think it is more than coincidence, but it has been in works for at least a year.

 

I'm really excited to hear the Cornwall IV, based on hearing the Forte III and the LS-5 I think it is going to have a great placement in the beloved Heritage line.

 

I think what Roy has done is simply magnificent,  updates with his modified Tractrix horns, new drivers in some cases, upgraded wiring and access, while keeping within PWKs overall design was a monumental task.

 

I have heard a lot of things about them, but no one is saying they are not a La Scala anymore, etc.  So I think he has achieved what he set out to do on that front.

 

I am also glad Klipsch was willing to invest a significant amiunt into R&D to bring back the Forte, update the Khorn and La Scala.  What's next?

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10 hours ago, dwilawyer said:

But @Chief bonehead is very busy trying to figure out how to make pro sound good in the home, and more importantly, how to make hip-hop, rap and disco sound good on Cornwalls and La Scalas.

Hope he's not spending too much of his valuable time on the latter.....

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5 hours ago, jimjimbo said:

Hope he's not spending too much of his valuable time on the latter.....

 

It's not what you think.  He's working on a low-level electronic device like Bose had for the 901s.  In this case the signal is digitized if it's not already, then "upsampled" into something more palatable.

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I wouldn't buy either one, no place to put them.

 

Chief bonehead is sneaky, no telling what he is up to, but he does have enough ideas and designs (some in his head) to put together almost anything. :huh:

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On 8/28/2019 at 10:55 AM, TasDom said:

https://www.klipsch.com/news/klipsch-refreshes-iconic-cornwall-speaker-enthusiasts-get-first-listen-at-rocky-mountain-audio-fest-2019

 

New features include:

  • All new K-702 midrange compression mated to a modified proprietary Tractrix® horn with patented Klipsch Mumps technology for even mid frequencies and consistent sound throughout the listening area.
  • A new high-fidelity, steep slope network, for truer to life sound reproduction with best in class efficiency and power handling.
  • New ports with Tractrix flares that deliver the most efficient, fastest air transfer in their class. The result is reduced port noise and clean, more powerful, punchy bass.
  • A newly designed wide dispersion high frequency phase plug to ensure the last octave matches the coverage pattern of the midrange and high frequency horns.
  • Premium aluminum input panels accommodate large, high-quality speaker cables, while strong binding posts allow for bi-wiring or bi-amping.
  • An updated passive network features premium grade AudioQuest® internal wiring.

The Klipsch Cornwall IV is available in three finishes — satin black ash, American walnut and natural cherry real-wood veneer to complement modern furnishings. As with the entire Klipsch Heritage series, the Cornwall IV speakers are designed and handcrafted in the USA. Each speaker is grain-matched using wood veneer panels from the same timber, resulting in a speaker pair that is virtually indistinguishable from the other.

Klipsch will debut the new speakers for the first time at Rocky Mountain Audio Fest in Suite # 7154, September 5-8, 2019 in Denver, CO.

The Klipsch Cornwall IV (US MSRP is $2,999 each) is available through Certified Heritage Dealers. For more information on the company and its products, please visit Klipsch.com.

 

I bet the Cornwall IV will sound no different than the Cornwall III, even though the Cornwall IV supposedly will cost more.

 

If I was in the market for Cornwalls, I would try to get Cornwall IIIs while they are still available. That is, unless the Cornwall IVs end up actually costing the same as the current Cornwall IIIs (because you can never believe prices on unreleased speakers until they actually hit the market), then either Cornwall IIIs or Cornwall IVs are fine.

 

Luckily, I already have my Cornwall IIIs ;)

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