IMWhizzle Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Hi all, At the moment I have four Klipsch RP280F's (Fronts and Surrounds), a Klipsch RP450C center and two Klipsch R-115SW subwoofer, powered by a Marantz 7011 AV Receiver. Next month I am about to pull the trigger and buy four RP-500SA's Dolby Enabled speakers, but I don't know for certain if the receiver can handle this without sacrificing the sound quality. I don't listen to reference levels, but -10dB to -5dB volume is often used. Since the Reference Premiere Line are speakers with a high sensitivity I don't know about the dolby enabled speakers. Is an external amplifier needed connected to the pre outs of my Marantz 7011 or not? I hope one can shine more light to this matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 So if I am understanding, you will have a total of 9 channels plus the LFE(subwoofer) channel. So I would say yes the 7011 can "handle" the load but most likely only in certain conditions like a smallish room and listening at moderate levels. My suggestion would be to set it up as planned and judge for yourself if an outboard amp is needed or wanted. I am an outboard amp proponent so I am always going to lean in that direction when it comes to my systems. A little extra horsepower is always a good thing. Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMWhizzle Posted April 20, 2019 Author Share Posted April 20, 2019 So if I am understanding, you will have a total of 9 channels plus the LFE(subwoofer) channel. So I would say yes the 7011 can "handle" the load but most like only in certain conditions like a smallish room and listening at moderate levels. My suggestion would be to set it up as planned and judge for yourself if an outboard amp is needed or wanted. I am an outboard amp proponent so I am always going to lean in that direction when it comes to my systems. A little extra horsepower is always a good thing. BillIndeed, there will be 9 channels in use and two subwoofers via the sub pre outs on the receiver. The space is 45m2. Don’t know how much that is in square feet.What amp (make and model) do you suggest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, IMWhizzle said: The space is 45m2. Don’t know how much that is in square feet. 484.37ft2 which in volume would be at a minimum 3875 cu. ft. assuming 8ft ceilings which would be like a mid size room. 1 hour ago, IMWhizzle said: What amp (make and model) do you suggest? Personally, my choice would be a 3 channel amp of at least 125w/ch but if you can find a 5 channel at a great price by all means jump on it. Where are you located? I found it, Holland. Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMWhizzle Posted April 20, 2019 Author Share Posted April 20, 2019 Personally, my choice would be a 3 channel amp of at least 125w/ch but if you can find a 5 channel at a great price by all means jump on it. Where are you located? I found it, Holland. BillThanks! So a Marantz 8077 connected to the 7011 via preouts will do the job? Or do you recommend other brands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, IMWhizzle said: Thanks! So a Marantz 8077 connected to the 7011 via preouts will do the job? Or do you recommend other brands? I think it will be fine. Though it would not hurt to look for a better amp for less money. How is the used audio gear market in Holland? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMWhizzle Posted April 20, 2019 Author Share Posted April 20, 2019 I think it will be fine. Though it would not hurt to look for a better amp for less money. How is the used audio gear market in Holland? BillWhich amp do you recommend? This would be the first time for me, so I don’t know what to look for. I only saw the marantz because I can buy it new for 1600 euros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, IMWhizzle said: Which amp do you recommend? This would be the first time for me, so I don’t know what to look for. I only saw the marantz because I can buy it new for 1600 euros. The used market in the US is pretty substantial so we are fortunate to be able to find very high quality gear for little money. What other brands are available that fall within your budget? Nothing wrong with the Marantz 8077 but here in the US there are much better amps with more power for less money. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inMotionGraphics Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 While I don't personally own any of these amps and haven't heard them yet, I've been hearing good things about Emotiva and Outlaw as a relatively affordable way to go. Spare Change recently reviewed models from both of these brands: EMOTIVA BasX A-700 & A-500 Review OUTLAW AUDIO 5000 AMPLIFIER Overview I hope this will help get you started on your hunt for a suitable external amp. Brendon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMWhizzle Posted April 20, 2019 Author Share Posted April 20, 2019 While I don't personally own any of these amps and haven't heard them yet, I've been hearing good things about Emotiva and Outlaw as a relatively affordable way to go. Spare Change recently reviewed models from both of these brands: EMOTIVA BasX A-700 & A-500 Review [/url] OUTLAW AUDIO 5000 AMPLIFIER Overview I hope this will help get you started on your hunt for a suitable external amp. BrendonUnfortunately the outlaw is not for sale in the Netherlands. The Emotiva XPA3 and the XPA5 are available. I read that the XPA line has a higher watts per channel compared to the basX line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inMotionGraphics Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, IMWhizzle said: I read that the XPA line has a higher watts per channel compared to the basX line. That's correct, but they also cost quite a bit more... if the XPA range fits your budget, it would definitely be worth taking a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMWhizzle Posted April 20, 2019 Author Share Posted April 20, 2019 How about two crown 1502’s for powering the fronts and the center? Or one for the mains only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 9 hours ago, IMWhizzle said: Unfortunately the outlaw is not for sale in the Netherlands. The Emotiva XPA3 and the XPA5 are available. I read that the XPA line has a higher watts per channel compared to the basX line. Great advice directly upstream ^^^ by everybody. I thought @willland was right on the money. I have never heard the basX line but I've read they sound really good. If the XPA costs too much in the Netherlands the Emotiva basX should be a solid choice. I have the XPA-5 gen1, 200 wpc into 5 channels. However I use only three of the channels for L/C/R which makes available 250 wpc. I use an Onkyo 717 as a pre-pro with the XPA-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMWhizzle Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 Bump to this thread. Finally I have added my 4 atmos speakers last week. So now I’m driving a 5.2.4 setup with the Marantz 7011 using two subwoofers with a 80hz crossover. I can buy the Marantz 8077 used for 1000 euros. Is that a good deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefDC Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 You could check these out: https://www.xtzsound.eu/product/edge-a2-300 ICEpower modules inside - excellent value - I use one to power my RP-8060FA's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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