windashine Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I was just at Chilies, and experimented with Happy Hour... when I got home with my "Take Out" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I used to be. Was the Rolex specialist for nearly 20 years at a jewelry store. Left there a year and a half ago. Sold my Submariner and everything related to Rolex that I had. Most days I don't even wear a watch anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 I've been looking at a Pepsi GMT or a Rhodium Yacht-Master... the gmt's are selling well above MSRP though. Seemingly a $10,000 MSRP Rolex actually costs an AD $5500-$6000... and then they try and sell them for $18,000 because the Chinese are willing to pay that price... it seems slightly outrageous. Also looking heavily into Grand Seiko. I was into it in the early 90's, but haven't had a good watch since... thinking about getting something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windashine Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 … o O 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 hours ago, TasDom said: A thread about horology? ....it's about time Bad! 🤣 +++ If it weren't for time travel, there would be no Avengers Endgame and half of you would have been turned to dust. Makes you think, don't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDBRbuilder Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 25 minutes ago, wvu80 said: Bad! 🤣 +++ If it weren't for time travel, there would be no Avengers Endgame and half of you would have been turned to dust. Makes you think, don't it? I finally decided to join MOST of the forum crowd...and start coming in here NOT TO THINK AT ALL...unless FORCED to do so! And you are NOW FINALLY trying to force me? NOT GONNA HAPPEN!...SORRY...….But, since you are already in fantasy land, "may the force be with you!" on somebody else tonite! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Schu said: I've been looking at a Pepsi GMT or a Rhodium Yacht-Master... the gmt's are selling well above MSRP though. Seemingly a $10,000 MSRP Rolex actually costs an AD $5500-$6000... and then they try and sell them for $18,000 because the Chinese are willing to pay that price... it seems slightly outrageous. Also looking heavily into Grand Seiko. I was into it in the early 90's, but haven't had a good watch since... thinking about getting something. This is my favorite watch: https://www.amazon.com/Casio-MDV106-1AV-Analog-Watch-Black/dp/B009KYJAJY Get it quick, it went up by $8. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parlophone1 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Schu said: Also looking heavily into Grand Seiko. I am not into horology but also admire the Grand Seiko. Way out of my league. But always wanted to try one of their automatics. There is something that attracts me to them. So finally settled for their lower presage line https://www.seikowatches.com/global-en/products/presage/srp763j1 Love it so far. Stainless steel, sapphire glass, shows date and day in a display and easy to read the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDBRbuilder Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Schu said: I've been looking at a Pepsi GMT or a Rhodium Yacht-Master... the gmt's are selling well above MSRP though. Seemingly a $10,000 MSRP Rolex actually costs an AD $5500-$6000... and then they try and sell them for $18,000 because the Chinese are willing to pay that price... it seems slightly outrageous. Also looking heavily into Grand Seiko. I was into it in the early 90's, but haven't had a good watch since... thinking about getting something. If you feel you ABSOLUTELY have to have an extremely highly priced watch then just go with THE ULTIMATE WORKING DIVER'S DIVE WATCH...the 1960's Jenny Caribbean triple-safe-cased 1000...PREFERABLY WITH the ULTIMATE CLASSIC band for it....an Olongapo hand-made band in .99 fine silver with the Gold-plated MINI sterling silver U.S. Navy Seal badge silver-soldered onto it! I GUARANTEE YOU that all of the REAL watch-lovers will be EXTREMELY IMPRESSED...FOREVER!...NO WORRIES! Hell, they'll even let you take a date out in their Ferrari if you let them wear the watch while you're gone! BTW..."1000" stands for 1000 METER depth rating! The first watch to EVER feature that depth rating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 The sea dweller is rated to 1000 meters... another possibility, but not for a first. I was also thinking the 'captain Willard' seiko reissue would be a great conversation piece. But the price went from 500$ to over 4000$ with the new sla033. It's almost a direct homage to the original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rplace Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I know quite a bit about watches. Initial advice about a Rolex would be don't get one unless you have looked a many, many other brands and it just speaks to you have you simply must have it. Any watch that cost more than say $50 is nothing more that jewelry that is slightly more functional. They are very personal so you should get what you want not what you think others want to see. Rolex, for the most part, is the watch a guy with some disposable income buys because he knows nothing about watches and want to impress other who know nothing about watches. It screams douchebag to most that knows about watches. They are sort of the Bose of watches, except for the fact they are actually wonderful time pieces. Don't get me wrong any serious watch guy should probably have one and I've been close to buying several a few times. They have inhouse movements, are incredibly well made and have a cult like following, especially the vintage ones. I don't think you would suggest people buy speakers based off of a bunch of old farts on a gun/car/skiing forum so my advice is start poking about places like: WatchUSeek https://www.watchuseek.com/ TimeZone http://www.timezone.com/ Once you have a brand you are interested in they have a forum for each brand great resource Breitling Source Forums https://breitlingsource.com/phpBB2/ These guys are brutally honest and lots of Rolex love for a Breitling site Some of the best advice I got when I bought my first nice watch was don't buy used for you FIRST watch. You might save a several hundred or thousand dollars but there is nothing like putting the first scratch on it or knowing you are the only owner. You wear it most every day and look at it many times a day. Also there are many fake and franken watches out there, especially in the vintage market which is really hot now. You for sure have to "buy the seller" not the watch if buying used. Some of the fakes are really, really, good. Others total crap and easy to spot. If it is not yet on your radar give an Omega "moon watch" a look. It can be worn with blue jeans or a tuxedo tons and tons of history. Great looks easy to change up the look between the classic stainless bracelet or black leather strap. If you are serious about a dive watch give the Breitling Sea Wolf at least a glance. I love the yellow face but it is not everyone's cup of tea. If you are into aviation IWC/Bremont/Breitling are obvious choices along with Bell & Ross. B&R is a love it or hate it sort of thing. I like em, but never bought one fearing I'd grow tired quickly. Buy whatever you buy because you like it, not because it is a limited edition and you think it will go up in value. The vast majority of the time it will NOT. When you are ready to buy PM me and I'll put you in touch with one of the biggest watch buyers/sellers in the country. They have several "real" stores and have been around forever. I guarantee he will take better care of you better than anyone else and you will get a genuine, real watch from an authorized seller cheaper. I recently put a friend in touch with him who wanted to buy her retiring Navy pilot a surprise retirement watch. She got exactly what she wanted cheaper than gray market prices. If you don't yet know what a gray market watch is you are not ready to spend several thousand on a watch. Not trying to be a jerk, just helpful and not sure where you are as everyone has to start somewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdnfay1 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Ticking away the moments That make up a dull day Fritter and waste the hours In an off-hand way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 I don't agree with the 'Rolex' is a d*ouche watch... I do not. The brand is steeped in tradition and real world usage. A d*ouche may own a Rolex, but all who own Rolex are douches. While they began with customer based calibers, its not that way anymore. Many also don't realize that Seiko has been making time keeping pieces since 1870 and holds many records for accuracy in mechanical movements even though their 'quartz' movement was responsible for killing the Swiss watch making industry. Grand Seiko automatic movements are calibrated to 6 positions as opposed to the Swiss chronometer 5. An Omega moon is cool, but I'd only consider the 'grey side of the moon' in ceramic and platinum... and not for my first purchase. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Schu said: I don't agree with the 'Rolex' is a d*ouche watch... I do not. The brand is steeped in tradition and real world usage. A d*ouche may own a Rolex, but all who Rolex are douches. While they began with customer based calibers, its not that way anymore. Could you have meant “..., but not all who own Rolex are douches.”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 On 5/9/2019 at 4:32 AM, Schu said: The sea dweller is rated to 1000 meters... another possibility, but not for a first. I was also thinking the 'captain Willard' seiko reissue would be a great conversation piece. But the price went from 500$ to over 4000$ with the new sla033. It's almost a direct homage to the original Not to be too picky, but per ISO 2281, isn’t it a requirement of a genuine diver’s watch that the two hands are of different shapes, not just different sizes? For example, the minute hand could be baton or sword style, while the hour hand could be arrow style. This makes for less chance of misreading the watch while underwater in a stressful situation. Those are good looking watches, but the very popular trend of not having any minute numbers seems like a way to make the watch a bit more difficult to read quickly in the aforementioned stressful situation. That’s why nearly every watch I own has a full set of numbers, except for the 3 o’clock position next to the date window. It just makes the watch easier to read, especially if it’s not at the usual angle at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 On 5/8/2019 at 4:14 PM, Emile said: It's done by calculating the statistical errors in the measurements. It takes 9,192,631,770 "pulses" from the Cesium to make up ONE second. Counters are extremely good, but not perfect ... haha they can miss a pulse FYI; a second is defined as the duration of 9.192.631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of Cesium-133. The up/down yields the radiation and these pulses are measured (Edit ... from basic Physics; electrons "circle" the nucleus at defined levels. If an electron drops "down" a level it HAS to loose energy ... that's the radiation released at a specific frequency.) Haha ... about a century ago a second was 1/86,400th of a "solar day." You’d wonder why the scientists couldn’t pick a simple round number. If they did, and “new seconds” were only a tiny bit different from our current seconds, most people, and many watches, would hardly notice the difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 It's all relative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muel Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I've found that I can't tell time anything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiva Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Might as well buy a watch that appreciates in value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rplace Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Schu said: I don't agree with the 'Rolex' is a d*ouche watch... I do not. The brand is steeped in tradition and real world usage. A d*ouche may own a Rolex, but all who own Rolex are douches. While they began with customer based calibers, its not that way anymore. Many also don't realize that Seiko has been making time keeping pieces since 1870 and holds many records for accuracy in mechanical movements even though their 'quartz' movement was responsible for killing the Swiss watch making industry. Grand Seiko automatic movements are calibrated to 6 positions as opposed to the Swiss chronometer 5. An Omega moon is cool, but I'd only consider the 'grey side of the moon' in ceramic and platinum... and not for my first purchase. I think you should go back and read my first paragraph. I'm not basing Rolex at all. I'm point out the type of people that typically, not always, buy one. Trying to help you not make a common mistake. If you don't want/like the help or I come off in a way that offended you that was not my intention. Like so many things there is a lot to learn, a lot of information and misinformation. BTW, there is only one Omega "moon" watch. That is why I put it in quotes. It is a manual wind, not automatic movement, with hesalite crystal, not a sapphire crystal. Depending on how much you want to argue about it a bunch of other things. There are many, many variants of the Omaga Speedmaster Professional including the Dark Side of the Moon, Light Side of the Moon, and Grey Side of the Moon. None of those are "The Moon" watch. All are Omega Speedmasters. Generally if it has a manual wind movement and a hesilite crystal most would say it is a moon watch. Sound familiar like the Heritage vs "extended" Heritage or Heresy 1, 2 or 1.5. Not official monikers form Klipsch but something for speaker/watch geeks to spend days/weeks/months arguing or discussing depending on you point of vew If you are so inclined one of many sites with a decent explanation https://www.fratellowatches.com/speedy-tuesday-incoming-question-about-original-moonwatch/ Quote The two references that made it to the Moon are the Speedmaster Professional 105.012 and 145.012. These references were delivered to NASA after the qualification in 1965. Omega sent them to NASA in the 1960’s and engraved them with their own serial number (SeB) like they did on every piece of equipment. So you could say that the original Moonwatch is a 105.012 or a 145.012. Recent research also shows that the Reference 105.003 was flown occasionally as a secondary piece. The Speedmaster Professional 105.012 and 145.012 models are becoming more expensive and increased rapidly. The well of caliber 321 powered Speedmasters is drying up, and the 145.012 (which was always the most affordable caliber 321 reference) reach prices that were paid for CK2998 references only a few years ago. So yes, the Speedmaster reference 105.012 or 145.012 are the ones to get if the Moonwatch heritage is very important to you. however, if we take into account that the Speedmaster Professional was never taken out of production, you can easily do the math yourself on which reference today would be the descendent of the original Moonwatch. The 145.012 was followed-up by the 145.022 in 1968 and was in production until 1982. The 145.022 came with several updates or changes, hence the -68/69/71/74/76/78 indicators after 145.022. The 145.022-78 was produced until 1982 but already in 1981 a new reference was introduced: the 145.0022 (unlike some people think, this is not a service case number as it was with the 145.0012.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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