Khornukopia Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 My Klipschorns were factory equipped with 12 gauge, high strand count OFC wires. 1 Quote
glens Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 6 hours ago, CECAA850 said: VIN number That's one I actually forgot to include, but again, it's the last term "reiterated again." 4 hours ago, Dave A said: For instance in Detroit it would be "Rewyering" and in the south it would be "Rewaaring". I wonder what it would be in say Missouri? How about in Bahston? 4 hours ago, codewritinfool said: Though not entirely the same, one of my favorites is PHP, the language. It stands for "PHP Hypertext Preprocessor", incorporating the acronym into the first letter of what it means. Or GNU (GNU's Not Unix). Your example reminded me of another pet peeve. In "RPM" the "R" term is seemingly without exception a plural already, thus "RPM" itself is (most) usually already plural and "RPMs" is plain silly. Or is it supposed to be "revolutions per minutes"? 1 Quote
CECAA850 Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Edgar said: Amazing how far afield this thread has gone ... repeatedly. It started out far afield. Quote
Edgar Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, CECAA850 said: It started out far afield. Well then it's right on track! Quote
DizRotus Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 RPM, RBI, VIN, ATM, etc. , as acronyms, become a noun in their own right, therefore, making the acronyms plural makes sense and sounds right. RBIs sounds OK and means the same thing as Runs Batted In, either of which beats the snot out of RsBI, which is correct in an anal OCD sort of way, but disregards its constituent words. Remember, the purpose of language is to communicate, not to fixate on somewhat arbitrary rules. Language is constantly evolving. Double negatives have become almost the norm. For example, “I ain’t got no money” is understood to mean the same thing as, I don’t have any money.” That said, respecting some rules makes communication easier and more elegant. Years ago, we hired some “experts” to prepare an opinion in some litigation. I don’t recall the exact topic, but a young associate wrote “thru” instead of “through.” When we questioned the use of “thru” in a somewhat scholarly paper he pointed out that “THRU” is the spelling used on street signs (insert face palm and eye rolls). Precise language, written and spoken, is going the way of the polar ice caps. Me and my wife were just discussing these ones. Her and me could care less irregardless of what him and her think. It’s where we're at. See, it’s hopeless. 1 Quote
DeanG Crossovers Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 17 hours ago, DizRotus said: irregardless Redundant. Quote
DizRotus Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Deang said: Redundant. Ya think? Is that the only thing you didn’t like about the last paragraph? 2 Quote
CECAA850 Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, DizRotus said: Ya think? Is that the only thing you didn’t like about the last paragraph? Looked just fine to me. 1 Quote
DeanG Crossovers Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, DizRotus said: Ya think? Is that the only thing you didn’t like about the last paragraph? You were lamenting the lack of precise language, so I found your use of the word ironic. No, I'm not with the grammar police - my wife (who is with the grammar police), regularly claims I make up words. 1 Quote
Dave A Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 20 hours ago, glens said: How about in Bahston? That would be Rewyahreeng. Quote
DizRotus Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, Deang said: I found your use of the word ironic. Facetious yes, ironic no. 1 Quote
glens Posted September 1, 2019 Posted September 1, 2019 On 8/30/2019 at 5:11 PM, DizRotus said: Precise language, written and spoken, is going the way of the polar ice caps. Me and my wife were just discussing these ones. Her and me could care less irregardless of what him and her think. It’s where we're at. See, it’s hopeless. Me and my wife were discussing... That's easy. Just drop the other person from the sentence and you'll have the answer to whether you sould use "me" or "I". (I realize the period should go inside the closing quotation mark but it's a conscious decision to do otherwise - me likes the way it looks better.) I get a kick out of people using "whomever and I" even when "me" would be correct. The paragraph is actually very cleverly constructed. I've told my son that the only legitimate sort of use of "these (or those) ones" would be if you were standing by bins of numerals at the hardware store and you needed some 1s, and there were a couple styles from which to choose, you might ask an opinion of someone "do you prefer these ones or those ones?" I'm not sure to which "Glen's Rule" Dean's referring, I have so many... 1 Quote
DizRotus Posted September 1, 2019 Posted September 1, 2019 Myself, I don’t like the word “myself.” It should not be used as a subject, as in the prior sentence. It is used improperly more often than not. Quote
DizRotus Posted September 1, 2019 Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, glens said: I’m not sure to which "Glen's Rule" Dean's referring, I have so many... Thank goodness. I didn’t know to which rule Dean was referring. My wife laughed out loud at your hardware store example. Quote
CECAA850 Posted September 1, 2019 Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, DizRotus said: My wife laughed out loud at your hardware store example. Word nerds. Lol. 1 Quote
DeanG Crossovers Posted September 1, 2019 Posted September 1, 2019 I haven't been very successful with these two: Effect Affect I was once told the best way to use them is to avoid them at all cost. Quote
Edgar Posted September 1, 2019 Posted September 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, Deang said: I haven't been very successful with these two: Effect Affect I was once told the best way to use them is to avoid them at all cost. The effect of his affect has been to effect change among all affected. Quote
glens Posted September 1, 2019 Posted September 1, 2019 31 minutes ago, Deang said: I haven't been very successful with these two: Effect Affect I was once told the best way to use them is to avoid them at all cost. Not "hard and fast" as far as rules go, but you can't hardly go wrong with affect=verb and effect=noun. Quote
glens Posted September 1, 2019 Posted September 1, 2019 2 hours ago, DizRotus said: My wife laughed out loud at your hardware store example. Now you'll ever envision a box full of when you hear "those ones." 1 Quote
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