Kris Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Does anyone know if using the Klipsch Powergate as "Play-Fi Surround Master" with Klipsch RW-1's as "Play-Fi Surround" is possible ? According to the Klipsch website Powergate firmware release 1.45 it should be possible: "Added Surround Speaker Support as rear surrounds", but when I try to setup through the Klipsch Stream app the message "No Master Detected" is given. "NOTES Version: 1.045 Released: 12/20/2017 Region: Global Change Log: Added Surround Speaker Support as rear surrounds. Removed hard sleep mode so Wi-Fi stays active in sleep mode. Over all compatibility and stability fixes" https://www.klipsch.ca/firmware?product=38940 Regards, K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigG Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) Quote Added Surround Speaker Support as rear surrounds. I think that text is referring to using the PowerGate as the amplifier for surround speakers, with another device as the surround master. Play-Fi's website says that to act as a Surround Master, the device must "be capable of decoding a 5.1 surround stream in some format." The PowerGate is a 2 channel amp, I'm skeptical it knows how to decode surround sound. https://play-fi.com/faq/entry/products-that-support-play-fi-surround Unfortunately Play-Fi doesn't list what devices out there can act as a surround master on their website. Outside of the Klipsch sound bars that support Play-Fi, I'm not sure what other products do - it is probably mostly Play-Fi enabled sound bars. As far as I know, all of the A/V receivers out there that support Play-Fi, only support streams coming from other Play-Fi services. They do not support Play-Fi's "Line-In" functionality, which is their other requirement for being a surround master. So, my guess would be that none of the current A/V receivers out there that say they have Play-Fi can act as a surround master either. Edited August 20, 2019 by CraigG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/20/2019 at 9:05 AM, CraigG said: I think that text is referring to using the PowerGate as the amplifier for surround speakers, with another device as the surround master. I believe you are correct. Looking at the firmware change logs for all the related Klipsch Play-Fi equipment, it seems that Klipsch is inaccurate and inconsistent with their descriptions. For example, for the Gate it lists "Added Surround Speaker Support as rear surrounds" yet the Gate only has two channel analog input to convert to Play-Fi and itself cannot function as amplifier for speaker. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// POWERGATE - REGION: GLOBAL Product Page NOTES Version: 1.045 Released: 12/20/2017 Region: Global Change Log: Added Surround Speaker Support as rear surrounds. Removed hard sleep mode so Wi-Fi stays active in sleep mode. Over all compatibility and stability fixes //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// GATE - REGION: GLOBAL Product Page NOTES Version: 1.032 Released: 12/20/2017 Region: Global Change Log: Added Surround Speaker Support as rear surrounds. Removed hard sleep mode so WiFi stays active in sleep mode. Over all compatibility and stability fixes //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// RW-1 WIRELESS SPEAKER - REGION: GLOBAL Product Page NOTES Version: 0.038 Released: 12/20/2017 Region: Global Change Log: Added Surround Speaker Support as rear surrounds. Removed hard sleep mode so WiFi stays active in sleep mode. Over all compatibility and stability fixes //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// RSB-14 SOUND BAR + WIRELESS SUBWOOFER - REGION: GLOBAL Product Page NOTES Version: 4.008 Released: 11/08/2017 Region: Global Change Log: Remembers DIALOG setting (on/off) after standby. (DIALOG setting is reset to OFF after AC power cycle) Remembers Subwoofer level setting after standby. (Subwoofer level is reset to default after AC power cycle.) Remembers SURROUND setting (on/off) after standby. (SURROUND setting is reset to OFF after AC power cycle). Added Surround Speaker Support for The Klipsch "RW-1" as a Single Surround. Added Surround Speaker Support for The Klipsch "The Three" as a Single Surround and as a Left & Right speaker. Speed up startup time Over all compatibility and stability fixes. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// RSB-8 SOUND BAR + WIRELESS SUBWOOFER - REGION: GLOBAL Product Page NOTES Version: 2.5.6 Released: 03/04/2019 Region: Global MDU: v2.5.6 Change Log: Fixes lockup issues behavior related to HDMI and Optical inputs Improved DC Power efficiency Improved Play-Fi module stability Over all compatibility and stability fixes ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MDU: v2.5.3.5 Change Log: Retains Surround mode and Dialog mode after standby. Added Surround Speaker Support for The Klipsch "RW-1" as a Single Surround. Added Surround Speaker Support for The Klipsch "The Three" as a Single Surround and as a Left & Right speaker. Over all compatibility and stability fixes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MDU: v2.4.9 Change Log: Changed Retail mode's default value of volume Added Surround Speaker Support for The Klipsch "RW-1" as a Left & Right speaker. Over all compatibility and stability fixes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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