Khornukopia 1420 Posted August 31, 2019 @AHall, thanks for posting the pictures. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IB Slammin 132 Posted August 31, 2019 18 hours ago, Chief bonehead said: Ding ding. We have a winner. It is an infected k603 horn. Hey Boss, Where does the mid horn cross?? tc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McBlueMeter 68 Posted September 1, 2019 Anyone know if the 15” driver has a cast frame or formed metal? Also, is this a new driver design or repurposed from the CWIII? From the outside, It appears to be a standard $100.00 Eminence Kappalite (or similar). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PrestonTom 701 Posted September 1, 2019 I assume, but I don't know for sure, that it is a K-33 like the previous models. Although these are sometimes made for Klipsch by Eminence, the K-33 can't be purchased from Eminence, it is proprietary. Whether a Kappalite is similar enough, or whether it may or may not be better, is an open question. If you are doing a DIY, you might want to look at some of the Cornscala builds. The best versions seem to be the ones actually specified by Bob Crites (there are multiple configurations). His versions seem to have the most "design" in them and not merely various parts tossed together. I am obviously showing my bias here. If you are trying to mimic the above Cornwall system, two of the major difficulties you will have is getting the cabinet geometry right (including ports) correct. (use BECs recommendations). The other major problem will be getting a mid-range horn that is Modified tractrix (with the mumps) in design. They are designed by Klipsch (Roy Delgado) and not sold to DIYers. I know of no good substitutes. Again, my bias is showing. Other than those two major snags. It is just a matter of getting a dozen or so other variables correct (esp the crossover). Good Luck, -Tom 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwilawyer 3935 Posted September 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, PrestonTom said: I assume, but I don't know for sure, that it is a K-33 like the previous models. I believe you are correct that it is a K-33, I believe Roy answered that above in this thread, but I will track it down and repost it. Travis 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mustang_flht 642 Posted September 2, 2019 On 8/31/2019 at 8:41 PM, IB Slammin said: Hey Boss, Where does the mid horn cross?? tc 700Hz specs here : https://f072605def1c9a5ef179-a0bc3fbf1884fc0965506ae2b946e1cd.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product-specsheets/Cornwall-2019-Spec-Sheet-v01.pdf https://www.klipsch.com/products/cornwall-iv-floorstanding-speaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marvel 5322 Posted September 2, 2019 If I didn't love fully horn loaded systems, I could really be tempted with these... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glens 799 Posted September 2, 2019 Poly diaphragms on the mids... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IB Slammin 132 Posted September 2, 2019 2 hours ago, mustang_flht said: 700Hz specs here : https://f072605def1c9a5ef179-a0bc3fbf1884fc0965506ae2b946e1cd.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product-specsheets/Cornwall-2019-Spec-Sheet-v01.pdf https://www.klipsch.com/products/cornwall-iv-floorstanding-speaker Thanks. With the larger horn I had hoped that it would cross deeper...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill W. 92 Posted September 2, 2019 40 minutes ago, IB Slammin said: Thanks. With the larger horn I had hoped that it would cross deeper...... At various times, Roy has talked about the importance of matching the polar pattern of each driver in the crossover region to make the transition as seamless as possible. I suspect that was a key element in the choice here. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwilawyer 3935 Posted September 3, 2019 On 8/30/2019 at 7:01 PM, Chief bonehead said: Ding ding. We have a winner. It is an infected k603 horn. Maybe he can explain some of this stuff in October. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pzannucci 1043 Posted September 3, 2019 16 hours ago, glens said: Poly diaphragms on the mids... A lot of people don't like Ti crossed that low or used in the mids in general. I know several folks vote for phenolic along with me. Seems more realistic. Wonder if the poly is close. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ODS123 375 Posted September 3, 2019 Any word on whether they will use all birch ply in order to enhance water resistance? 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave A 2298 Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, ODS123 said: Any word on whether they will use all birch ply in order to enhance water resistance? I see you OD 🤣 20 hours ago, Marvel said: If I didn't love fully horn loaded systems, I could really be tempted with these... Bookshelf speakers next to your MWM's? 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marvel 5322 Posted September 3, 2019 3 hours ago, pzannucci said: A lot of people don't like Ti crossed that low or used in the mids in general. I know several folks vote for phenolic along with me. Seems more realistic. Wonder if the poly is close. I'm temporarily using my LS crossovers with my MWMs and K-69/BM-D750 drivers, and with the crossover rolling in the tweeter, the Ti as only mids, it sounds pretty smooth. I know the K-69 is a little ragged up higher. I've always been pretty satisfied with the phenolic diaphragms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IB Slammin 132 Posted September 3, 2019 18 hours ago, Bill W. said: At various times, Roy has talked about the importance of matching the polar pattern of each driver in the crossover region to make the transition as seamless as possible. I suspect that was a key element in the choice here. Thanks Bill. I had not considered that. My ear hears something a bit odd when a coned woofer produces the mids in a reflex design. I want to hear the horn produce most of the midrange. I cross my DBB's at 450hz using an extreme slope circuit on the LF board. Subjective I guess. ??? tc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ODS123 375 Posted September 3, 2019 At more than 2” taller than the IIIs it will be a bit harder to fit these in with many decors. They were already gigantic. Still, I look forward to hearing them at my dealer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chief bonehead 1282 Posted September 4, 2019 3 hours ago, ODS123 said: At more than 2” taller than the IIIs it will be a bit harder to fit these in with many decors. They were already gigantic. Still, I look forward to hearing them at my dealer. They are actually the same height. In the old spec sheet, the riser was not taken into account. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mustang_flht 642 Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Chief bonehead said: They are actually the same height. In the old spec sheet, the riser was not taken into account. Yes Chief Bonehead is right, my CWIIIs are 2" higher than what is indicated on the CWIII sheet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mustang guy 2236 Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, mustang_flht said: Yes Chief Bonehead is right, my CWIIIs are 2" higher than what is indicated on the CWIII sheet. They must have started usin' summa them metric rulers in the factree. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
