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How many factory satin black finish Klipschorns were made?

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They seem somewhat scarce.  Satin black finish, should be popular for home theater use, as well as a more modern decor in homes.

 

Are there records on how many black finish Klipschorns produced?

 

Were the Belles ever released in black?

 

Thank you!  Ken Brookshire 

 

 

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Just a little FYI about black-finished speakers from Klipsch...especially NON-PIANO GLOSS BLACK....Many of the black-finished speakers are what are now called "B" stock, over the years due to irregularities in the fine wood veneers or blemishes...such as in black walnut veneered panels where there is a bit of "white wood", AKA "live wood"(which is actually the few rings just under the bark of the tree where nutrients and water are passed up and down the trunk)...other irregularities in the fine veneers are things such as very fine discrepancies in where the veneer fletches meet at their "book-match" seams points,.or things like that.  This went on for many Years...even decades..."shoot them black and send them out on the next order for black"!  Even with K-horns!  There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the performance of the speakers, though!...and the black paint hides any veneer discrepancies.  Bye and large, the vast majority of K-horns in black were actually birch plywood instead of the finely-veneered panels, though!  The Belles were also shipped black, but they always used finely-veneered panels for that build, besides they were ALSO ALWAYS a special-order item, anyway!

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Wow.  Anyway I like the, um non-color Klipschorns in black anyway.

 

I personally finished a pair in birch plywood.  I had to use a water stain to even out the lighter sap wood.

 

Thank you for the interesting back story!

I'll send a pic.

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Just a little FYI about black-finished speakers from Klipsch...especially NON-PIANO GLOSS BLACK....Many of the black-finished speakers are what are now called "B" stock, over the years due to irregularities in the fine wood veneers or blemishes...such as in black walnut veneered panels where there is a bit of "white wood", AKA "live wood"(which is actually the few rings just under the bark of the tree where nutrients and water are passed up and down the trunk)...other irregularities in the fine veneers are things such as very fine discrepancies in where the veneer fletches meet at their "book-match" seams points,.or things like that.  This went on for many Years...even decades..."shoot them black and send them out on the next order for black"! 


I was just working on a pair of beat up black kg2 speakers. I decided to sand them down and restain them with a black stain/ebony dye mixture I bought from woodcraft. When I finished sanding the top, I received a gift from one of the original workers.


The finished product came out great, I used Howard's feed and seed wax for a finisha0d2535adf89dd5a756f8722df9e1f67.jpgdc63829e7e698e69b03fabc819c4ef9d.jpg

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Actual numbers would have to come from a literal examination of every hand-written logbook entry, not something I plan to do.  In any case, these hand-written records end in the early 80's when "computers took over".  With a fast succession of platforms, the electronic data is lost.

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On 11/3/2019 at 12:02 PM, HDBRbuilder said:

Just a little FYI about black-finished speakers from Klipsch...especially NON-PIANO GLOSS BLACK....Many of the black-finished speakers are what are now called "B" stock, over the years due to irregularities in the fine wood veneers or blemishes...such as in black walnut veneered panels where there is a bit of "white wood", AKA "live wood"(which is actually the few rings just under the bark of the tree where nutrients and water are passed up and down the trunk)...other irregularities in the fine veneers are things such as very fine discrepancies in where the veneer fletches meet at their "book-match" seams points,.or things like that.  This went on for many Years...even decades..."shoot them black and send them out on the next order for black"!  Even with K-horns!  There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the performance of the speakers, though!...and the black paint hides any veneer discrepancies.  Bye and large, the vast majority of K-horns in black were actually birch plywood instead of the finely-veneered panels, though!  The Belles were also shipped black, but they always used finely-veneered panels for that build, besides they were ALSO ALWAYS a special-order item, anyway!

 

Good morning, did Klipschorn ever appear in the black piano version? Currently, I have the opportunity to buy, but I also have doubts whe there this version has ever been produced? I attach a photo. Thanks for the answers. 


 

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7 minutes ago, sqrak said:

Good morning, did Klipschorn ever appear in the black piano version? Currently, I have the opportunity to buy, but I also have doubts whe there this version has ever been produced? I attach a photo. Thanks for the answers. 

Are the tags still in place? If so the finish code will be on them.

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18 hours ago, sqrak said:

 

Good morning, did Klipschorn ever appear in the black piano version? Currently, I have the opportunity to buy, but I also have doubts whe there this version has ever been produced? I attach a photo. Thanks for the answers. 



 

 

I worked at Klipsch from 1976 to 1983...about 7.5 years...in that time maybe 2 or 3 pairs of gloss piano black K-horns were shipped, from what I can remember.  So, they are exceedingly rare as a finish on K-horns, but it was DEFINITELY an option for the finish throughout that time and earlier and later than when I was there.  THe painters hated doing them, though, because there was way too much possibility of drips/runs happening during the application of those multiple coats of high-gloss black laquer!  They would neeed to come in bef9ore work to shoot those layers, too...after scrubbing down the floor to eliminate the possibility of any dust getting into the finish when they shot the speakers, and also prior to the rest of the employees getting to their work stations, stirring up dust in the process!  Total PITA for the painters!...seriously!  It was also a total PITA for the final assembly and shipping personnel...almost anything might create a scuff mark and the shipping department had to be very careful when packing them...for the same reasons!

 

As for the validity of that gloss piano black being an original factory paint job, only the labels can confirm or deny that for you, just as USNRET stated above!  Just looking at your posted pics, my best guess is that the gloss piano black was applied after the speakers left the plant...since it appears that the sharp edges and corners have been sanded over to "round those edges somewhat" prior to the black finish being applied....but I could be wrong!

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48 minutes ago, HDBRbuilder said:

I worked at Klipsch from 1976 to 1983...about 7.5 years...in that time maybe 2 or 3 pairs of gloss piano black K-horns were shipped, from what I can remember.  So, they are exceedingly rare as a finish on K-horns, but it was DEFINITELY an option for the finish throughout that time and earlier and later than when I was there.  THe painters hated doing them, though, because there was way too much possibility of drips/runs happening during the application of those multiple coats of high-gloss black laquer!  They would neeed to come in bef9ore work to shoot those layers, too...after scrubbing down the floor to eliminate the possibility of any dust getting into the finish when they shot the speakers, and also prior to the rest of the employees getting to their work stations, stirring up dust in the process!  Total PITA for the painters!...seriously!  It was also a total PITA for the final assembly and shipping personnel...almost anything might create a scuff mark and the shipping department had to be very careful when packing them...for the same reasons!

 

As for the validity of that gloss piano black being an original factory paint job, only the labels can confirm or deny that for you, just as USNRET stated above!  Just looking at your posted pics, my best guess is that the gloss piano black was applied after the speakers left the plant...since it appears that the sharp edges and corners have been sanded over to "round those edges somewhat" prior to the black finish being applied....but I could be wrong!

 

I enclose additional photos and photo labels. Do you judge by the mark what the original color was? 

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11 minutes ago, sqrak said:

Clearer photo

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KCBR...no finish was applied at the factory...they are C-style Klipschorns shipped as "Birch Raw"...meaning the speakers were just sanded and then shipped, with no finish applied.  Sometime after they were shipped the "collar" between the upper H/F top section and the bass bin was added...C-style shipped from the plant without any collar.

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Is it worth buying them? Are they ok from a technical and sound point of view?

 

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3 minutes ago, sqrak said:

Is it worth buying them? Are they ok from a technical and sound point of view?

 

The finish won't affect the sound. As long as the drivers are good, the enclosure is solid, and the price is right, they are true Klipschorns.

 

That said, if the photos are any indication, they are gorgeous.

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