mopardave Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Anyone needing the Kappalite 3015LF-4 may want to get them now because Avatar speakers tells me Eminence may be discontinuing the 4ohm version and will only have the 8ohm version. Avatar speaker is closing them out a $139ea until there gone. Avatar had a large lot produced for them, so the woofer may not have the usual manufacturer marking as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete H Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 That's a great price on them for certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 14 hours ago, mopardave said: Anyone needing the Kappalite 3015LF-4 may want to get them now because Avatar speakers tells me Eminence may be discontinuing the 4ohm version and will only have the 8ohm version. Avatar speaker is closing them out a $139ea until there gone. Avatar had a large lot produced for them, so the woofer may not have the usual manufacturer marking as well. What gets me about woofers in general, for use with horns on top, is that, unless you are using 2 in parallel, they should ALL be 4 ohms in order to draw an extra 3 Db's worth of CURRENT from a solid state amplifier to try and keep up with more efficient 16/8 ohm midrange compression drivers or 8 ohm horn tweeters. All of the mids and tweets can put out 106-110 Db for a 1 watt imput, so the bass reflex woofer section, down in the "middle to high nineties" is always struggling to catch up unless it's fully Horn Loaded also. We all know that fully horn loaded BASS sections in the REAL WORLD are rare, even for Klipsch Products (sales numbers don't lie). But, like all other companies, Eminence has to look at sales numbers and cut loose the weak members of the herd! Such is life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 28 minutes ago, Pete H said: That's a great price on them for certain. It's a steal, since they are probably being sold at their cost or less. Being that a Cornwall cabinet has what I call a very "FAT BASS" without using EQ, the midrange response of the strong motor, and the higher Xmas of the voice coil/suspension combination, makes this a...............dare I say it........................a SUPER Driver!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete H Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, ClaudeJ1 said: It's a steal, since they are probably being sold at their cost or less. Being that a Cornwall cabinet has what I call a very "FAT BASS" without using EQ, the midrange response of the strong motor, and the higher Xmas of the voice coil/suspension combination, makes this a...............dare I say it........................a SUPER Driver!! I have a couple on the shelf, but really tempting to pick up a couple more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Pete H said: I have a couple on the shelf, but really tempting to pick up a couple more. Like the old saying goes: "You can't steal in slow motion." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 What are they used in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Just now, Thaddeus Smith said: What are they used in? Super Cornwall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete H Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, Thaddeus Smith said: What are they used in? I've also seen them used in JWC's DBB's and in various Cornscala's and I'm sure many other applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 10-4. Mostly making sure these weren't the same driver often recommended for LA Scalas, albeit with some other designation I hadn't seen before (the kappalite 15c) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopardave Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Thaddeus Smith said: What are they used in? What Avatar told me was they are mainly sold for guitar amps and they use the 8ohm version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, mopardave said: What Avatar told me was they are mainly sold for guitar amps and they use the 8ohm version. Since guitar amps are either 2 or 4 speakers, I can see why the 8 ohm version is a better choice. My original point about 4 Ohm drivers for bass horns or bass reflex cabinets for musing REPRODUCTION, was referring to a SINGLE DRIVER for bass trying to keep up with compression drivers and horns using solid state amplifiers. A very COMMON and SPECIFIC set of conditions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopardave Posted December 7, 2019 Author Share Posted December 7, 2019 5 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said: Since guitar amps are either 2 or 4 speakers, I can see why the 8 ohm version is a better choice. My original point about 4 Ohm drivers for bass horns or bass reflex cabinets for musing REPRODUCTION, was referring to a SINGLE DRIVER for bass trying to keep up with compression drivers and horns using solid state amplifiers. A very COMMON and SPECIFIC set of conditions. Yes, I understand and agree. These will rock for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopardave Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 14 hours ago, mopardave said: Yes, I understand and agree. These will rock for sure. Get'em while you can guys. Avatar Speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete H Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, mopardave said: Get'em while you can guys. Avatar Speakers. Ordered a couple yesterday after confirming with the company that they are the same 4ohm version that is available elsewhere and nothing was really altered for their "custom" application. I've never dealt with that company before but I have to say, their response time to my questions was super fast and on a Saturday. Thanks for the heads up @mopardave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopardave Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Pete H said: Ordered a couple yesterday after confirming with the company that they are the same 4ohm version that is available elsewhere and nothing was really altered for their "custom" application. I've never dealt with that company before but I have to say, their response time to my questions was super fast and on a Saturday. Thanks for the heads up @mopardave I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 On 12/6/2019 at 4:25 PM, mopardave said: Anyone needing the Kappalite 3015LF-4 may want to get them now Not sure I needed them but ordered a pair just in case price is just too good to pass up thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopardave Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 4 hours ago, jjptkd said: Not sure I needed them but ordered a pair just in case price is just too good to pass up thanks! Cant wait to get them in use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopardave Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 5 hours ago, jjptkd said: Not sure I needed them but ordered a pair just in case price is just too good to pass up thanks! They dont have the tipical model decals. He orders them in large lots, but there is a label under one basket spoke. I have a long email from him describing the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Shipped out of Idaho I received mine in 2 days appear to be as advertised very light weight both together weigh less than a single k-48 thanks again for the heads up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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