absolve2525 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 I see that the new Heresy has a new tractrix horn and midrange driver. Very interesting! Does anyone know more about them? It looks to have the same outer dimensions as the older K—701? I'm wondering if it would be possible to upgrade/swap with an older Heresy or Tangent horn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absolve2525 Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 Anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 You can always call Klipsch and find out. 1 800 554 7724. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 -looks the same to me --- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absolve2525 Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 Cool, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelt Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Here is a tangent 400 with kp250ll mid and tweeters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 23 hours ago, absolve2525 said: Anybody? Yes it is the same horn that has been around since the early 2000's in the pro models 201 II's 250 II's are a couple I know of off hand as pictured above the only thing with using them on the older Heresy / forte / or Tangent models is that horn has a thread insert for mid driver mounting so if you're planning on staying with the stock k53 driver you'd need an adapter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absolve2525 Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Does the tractrix mid horn sound better? What about the new driver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANT Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 The K704/K704T is not really a direct drop in replacement for the K701 though it does share the same mounting dimensions/flange. It takes some network tweaks to flatten it out. The PAudio 2510 horn is identical except it is missing the woofer cutout/notch. I have a few of them that I have tried to use a few times but they never sound very good... I have avoided all of the stock models that utilize them because of this so I do not know how the current implementations sound? As for the driver, I am also curious about what it is exactly... my current guess is the same PAudio driver used in the KPT/RF/Forte just with a new diaphragm but it could be all new? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr20 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Wait, the heresy IV has a tractrix mid-range horn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr20 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Thanks for that, I didn't realize it, I thought only the cornwall got tractrix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Wow! Just heard about the Audioquest wire in the video. Carbon impregnated insulation? Carbon is a conductor. Polyethylene (PE) should be a long lasting insulation, but nitrogen injected? What for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 -better quality speaker wire for sure --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glens Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I guess I thought the mid horn in the Heresy III was already a tractrix taper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANT Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 1:52 AM, glens said: I guess I thought the mid horn in the Heresy III was already a tractrix taper. HIII and CWIII both use the K701 exponential horn w/ the K52Ti (16ohm) driver/motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANT Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 8:25 PM, dtr20 said: Wait, the heresy IV has a tractrix mid-range horn? You know the funny thing is that Paudio says it's a diffraction horn? It's hard to see in the brochure but in person you can see where they have filled the woofer notch/cutout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang_flht Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 For me the profile of PH-2510 still looks a lot like K704 which equips the new Heresy IV. PH-2510 VS K704 Klipsch, the profile seems identical, tractrix? here is a good picture of PH-2510 for a good comparison You know it is the new K702 compression, I would like to replace the K53ti with K701 of my Cornwall III because I find that the sound is creaky in the meddle, maybe my ears do not like Titanium 😪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glens Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 As large a horn as can be fitted has got to be a benefit. I'm rather new to the Klipsch scene after being unimpressed decades ago (though I've always reserved a "like" for the "idea" of the LaScala!). I'm an elated owner of a pair of Forte III now, though. The wimpy little Heresy mid horn in the Cornwall III left me entirely uninterested. Were I in the market at this time I'm thinking the extra $ for the Cornwall IV would be justifiable over the Fortes. If room for them were available... Likely the Forte III would still win out over the Heresy IV IMO, since they (still?) occupy the same floor space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang_flht Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 The new K702 is very similar to the Celestion CDX1-1748, possibly in a 16ohm version. Besides, the tweeters from AK6 and AL5 also look a lot like the tweeters from Celestion K702 on CWIV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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