billybob Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Seems they matter, but yes point taken. What, 40,000 new infections and 1000 deaths per day? Not good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said: Compare your sum to the area beneath the mean curve. It's a blip. Here's New York state. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Notice in both graphs the time line. Notice what Jeff calls the mean curve is actually the threshold for excess deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, mungkiman said: Here's New York state. NY definitely looks worse than the national data you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, oldtimer said: I find it amazing that with so much wrong going on, people want to focus on quibbling about statistics. Well, they only use these things to shut down the world and run millions of people out of business or out of jobs. There are serious Constitutional concerns here. I don't really think we have much of a Constitution anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Here's New York in the same format I first posted. You can search any state you like on the website, as well as choose from several dashboards to show different data sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Yep, because they came in from Europe into NY. Infected the locals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Jeff Matthews said: Well, they only use these things to shut down the world and run millions of people out of business or out of jobs. There are serious Constitutional concerns here. I don't really think we have much of a Constitution anymore. And why is that? Abuse of power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 If this were a 5 year stock chart, the read would be, this company just did a moonshot breakout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, oldtimer said: Yep, because they came in from Europe into NY. Infected the locals. And they had orders to put the sick in nursing homes. That was a pretty bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Here's South Dakota, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, oldtimer said: And why is that? Abuse of power? Not abuse. Abuse presumes the power exists. I am thinking more like usurpation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, Jeff Matthews said: Not abuse. Abuse presumes the power exists. I am thinking more like usurpation. Wow. Getting to the heart of the problem. We only have ourselves to blame right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 hours ago, oldtimer said: It's not "I'm from the government and I want to help you" anymore, as the ignorant wish to repeat. Now it is "I am the government and I'm here to lie to you." Government lying? To the now ever popular with cable news “American people”? Just say it ain’t so, say it ain’t so — Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, oldtimer said: Wow. Getting to the heart of the problem. We only have ourselves to blame right? Can you think of anyone else to blame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 You mean like "I am the only one who can fix it?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Remember the conversation started about lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, oldtimer said: You mean like "I am the only one who can fix it?" Puffery. No big deal. Every movement needs a leader. In the end of the day, it will be expressed by the will of the people (or lack thereof). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 It seems these days all topics, political conversations start - and end - with lies — . Allowing for zero accountability— Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Jeff Matthews said: Every movement needs a leader. Leader? If he's the answer, how dumb was the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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