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11 hours ago, tigerwoodKhorns said:

I am streaming news from yesterday evening noting 6,010 active cases in the USA, while looking at the current cases as of today being 9,077 cases.  A 33% increase in less than 24 hours.  I realize more testing, but jeez, that is a huge increase. 

 

Gaining momentum at a very steep rate. 

 

Yes, huge increases reflect more testing as opposed to faster spreading.

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USNS Mercy and Comfort, the navies 2 hospital ships, will be deployed to assist in supporting healthcare needs for the country. They are huge supertankers fully converted to be 1000 bed trauma centers. One will cover the east coast, the other the west coast. Though run by the navy, the medical personnel will be civilian contractors. These were outfitted to support war trauma needs and are not set up to deal with infectious diseases. So they have huge wards of beds instead of spaces which would allow for isolation cases. In this application they are not intended to treat covid cases but to augment the standard trauma care needs seen daily in our major cities. This is where the shootings and auto accident cases can be sent for trauma care alleviating their burden on land based hospitals thus allowing them to focus on covid cases. Mercy is under way to New York City. Comfort will lag about a week as it was in the midst of a retrofit.

 

They’ll need to make certain that no covid patients are among those accepted for treatment lest they become floating Petri dishes.

 

On another note ventilator manufacturers are receiving massive orders for product. The orders are coming from all around the world. And, as with most industries, these manufacturers simply cannot instantly ratchet up their production by 100 fold. As much as they respect the demand they expressed hope that nobody would require the volume of these devices being purchased. Unlike polio, ventilator care for covid patients is a lot more involved. It requires more sophisticated equipment and more sophisticated personnel to safely and effectively use that equipment. And we start into this conundrum in short supplies of both.

 

As you can see just getting the logistics set-up is a serious challenge. If we have to actually activate these resources it will be a stretch and a strain to run them efficiently. But this is all the planet has. Several world leaders have used the term ‘war’. We are at war with a pathogen. Think of that ‘Rosie the riveter’ WW2 determination. For now our part in this scheme is to not ‘feed’ this virus new avenues to spread. Do your part to ‘hide’. Let’s starve it out of existence.

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10 hours ago, tigerwoodKhorns said:

and Maha (a coconut milk pudding desert).

 

That's maja, isn't it. Love it, too!

 

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16 minutes ago, CECAA850 said:

Yes, huge increases reflect more testing as opposed to faster spreading.

Logic and common sense do not have a part in this manufactured crisis. Please do not try logic and common sense as it is not appreciated. I think I have just lost all interest in watching the hype overtake reality and ponder how all these hand wringers worry over a few deaths from the Wuhan virus but do not collapse into quivering masses of terror over the 20,000 plus who will die from flu in the USA this year. Somehow when the news media did not go all ape s--t over the 60,000 plus deaths in the USA alone in 2017-18 these current worriers did not live in fear. How can that be? It saddens me that so many can be told what to think and then do so without any critical analyses of the topic at hand.

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19 minutes ago, Dave A said:

Logic and common sense do not have a part in this manufactured crisis.

Couldn't agree more.  For proof, just look in the grocery stores.

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26 minutes ago, Dave A said:

Logic and common sense do not have a part in this manufactured crisis. Please do not try logic and common sense as it is not appreciated. I think I have just lost all interest in watching the hype overtake reality and ponder how all these hand wringers worry over a few deaths from the Wuhan virus but do not collapse into quivering masses of terror over the 20,000 plus who will die from flu in the USA this year. Somehow when the news media did not go all ape s--t over the 60,000 plus deaths in the USA alone in 2017-18 these current worriers did not live in fear. How can that be? It saddens me that so many can be told what to think and then do so without any critical analyses of the topic at hand.

If you’re not part of the solution...... you become part of the problem.

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34 minutes ago, Dave A said:

Logic and common sense do not have a part in this manufactured crisis.

Does this mean you will not participate in suggestions by the government about how to keep yourself virus free?

Like social distancing, etc.

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9 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

If you’re not part of the solution...... you become part of the problem.

Amen.

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2 minutes ago, Greg_M said:

Does this mean you will not participate in suggestions by the government about how to keep yourself virus free?

Like social distancing, etc.

Here's where the hypocrisy kicks in...... 

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I have left the house 1 time in the last month. I don't think it's going to do any good if my wife goes shopping and comes home with whatever is lurking out there. Luckily, we have no confirmed cases in our county. BTW, I consider it a privilege to stay home.

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After all that going, it feels good here staying. Can go outside and get some sun and exercise.

Meanwhile, brother always active, and I get some activity there.

Mellowing out a slow process for some.

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On 3/16/2020 at 6:35 PM, sunburnwilly said:

Well here in Charleston SC effective midnight tonight no more gatherings of 50 or more people in a place at a given time . This might be an 8 week ordeal and my place of business might just shut down for the duration .

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I know everywhere Cat plays has cancelled her. I'm assuming you guys shut down completely. Really sorry man. I don't know what's going to happen here. I know HVAC is still pretty critical but we rely on New Construction projects. It's getting weird. Stay in touch.

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Another report from friend in OK City - Costco has $1.19 gas ️ and has pallets of TP. Checkout lines to back of store — 

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If you must compare covid to the influenza then draw your comparison to the 1918-19 influenza pandemic that killed 50,000,000 people. Then, as now, the pathogen was new and humanity had - no/zero/nada - immunity. It spread as fast as it could and due to lack of knowledge it was given ample pathways to spread unchecked all over the planet. Not 1/2 million dead as we see with our annual flu events......  50 million dead. Some countries lost 20% of their population.

 

As bad as our annual flu season is it is relatively contained. There is always some residual herd immunity to slow its spread. Science can now predict where mutations are headed and proactively formulate vaccines. Those vaccines are made in advance in massive volumes and also impede the spread of the flu. When we do see excessive flu deaths it is because a new strain sneaks into the mix. Yes, absolutely the flu season delivers death en masse even when all goes well. That alone should impart a greater understanding and respect for how ugly these pathogens can be. 
 

The world is trying to keep the lid on this pressure cooker. We have been given some very prudent guidelines on how we can greatly help this endeavor individually. Yessiree the actions being taken are having consequences that resonate through all sectors of living. But look at places that delayed such actions. Look at Italy. Look at Iran. The planet houses a whole lot more people than it did in 1918. If covid really runs amok or worse, mutates into an even uglier critter we will have mountains of dead.

 

 

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If anything I believe the "manufactured crisis" falls squarely on the shoulders of China, who did not even tell the rest of the world there was a crisis for a month after they knew about it.
Other suspicious behavior is them throwing US reporters out of the country so that we do not know what is going on over there.
China and a number of other countries have never been our friend and only acted friendly so they could empty our pockets.
Please consider the following articles.

Tucker: Why would America's media take China's side amid coronavirus pandemic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W9vjsFQUUU

The article also claimed that China could impose pharmaceutical export controls which would plunge America into "the mighty sea of coronavirus."

China hints at denying Americans life-saving coronavirus drugs
https://www.foxnews.com/world/chinese-deny-americans-coronavirus-drugs

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4 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

Look at Italy. Look at Iran.

 

Look at the US... We should have jumped on this in January

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Fair weather friends...yes probably.

 

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6 minutes ago, Marvel said:

 

Look at the US... We should have jumped on this in January

The real, genuine demon here is China who intentionally squandered the opportunity to contain this virus that apparently came to us as a consequence of their medieval public health policies. That was way beyond irresponsible. 

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