Electoral College: Should it stay or go?

[OO1]

----- like Oldtimer said , Could it be that the two major parties have made the laws for that  ?  yes , -

[OO1]

2 hours ago, dtel said:

If it goes by popular vote only large cities/populations will be electing presidents and whole states with lower populations would not really count

 

 

it is the same in Canada --

[Deang]

Mark Twain said, "If voting made a difference, they wouldn't let us do it."

 

I think we should just get rid of voting. Half of the country doesn't participate, and half of those who do are imbeciles.

 

Each party picks their preferred candidate and the whole thing is settled by playing a game of Jeopardy.

[DizRotus]

25 minutes ago, Deang said:

Each party picks their preferred candidate and the whole thing is settled by playing a game of Jeopardy.

 

Great idea!  A Jeopardy Teen Tournament winner would beat that “stable genius.”

[OO1]

you could also do a rotation of the parties - 1 does 4 years , the other the next 4 - and so on -, and so on -

[rplace]

8 hours ago, Deang said:

Mark Twain said, "If voting made a difference, they wouldn't let us do it."

 

^^^Exactly.

 

One man one vote....as long as you are a Rich, Anglo, white, land owner. No women, not the majority of the southern population (slaves), not the poor and stupid people.

 

History shows changes have been made in the past, one might even argue, for the better. Time for another on the electoral college.

[sputnik]

22 minutes ago, rplace said:

8 hours ago, Deang said:

Mark Twain said, "If voting made a difference, they wouldn't let us do it."

 

 

^^^Exactly.

 

One man one vote....as long as you are a Rich, Anglo, white, land owner. No women, not the majority of the southern population (slaves), not the poor and stupid people.

 

History shows changes have been made in the past, one might even argue, for the better. Time for another on the electoral college.

A corollary to the Mark Twain quote:

 

“A fool and his money are soon elected” - Will Rogers

[DizRotus]

The Electoral College has outlived its original purpose, but it won’t be eliminated in our lifetimes.

[Sancho Panza]

Check & Balance

[billybob]

Balance and then check.

[Dave A]

17 hours ago, sputnik said:

The problem is that dumb a~~ people are more organized now than they were in 1788.  They are emotionally roused by a talk-radio noise machine that shouts nonsense into their limbic system and, in turn, they have an entire inter-webs to puke out dumb a~~ blogs.  A “visceral” cycle that successfully manipulates low-information Kool-Aid drinkers to sincerely believe a spectrum of outrageous BS such as “mainstream” media having an agenda to destroy the very Constitution that guarantees a free press.  The noise machine pounds away about a mysterious “Deep State” that is so well organized that no one really knows anything about it - the idea is to sow seeds of fear into the Kool-Aid drinkers in order to target honorable career public servants that place service to the Nation over the whims of an egomaniac.  The whole “Deep State” fallacy provides the distraction from the fact that rather than draining the swamp, he is polluting it.

Auditioning for CNN today?

[dtel]

5 hours ago, DizRotus said:

The Electoral College has outlived its original purpose, but it won’t be eliminated in our lifetimes.

So your fine with states and cities with who make up the largest population deciding all of the elections. This has nothing to do with who we vote for, but  where the most votes come from.

 

https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/

What are the most populated states in the United States? Here is a list of the top ten most populated states in the country:

1. California (Population: 39,747,267)
2. Texas (Population: 29,087,070)
3. Florida (Population: 21,646,155)
4. New York (Population: 19,491,339)
5. Pennsylvania (Population: 12,813,969)
6. Illinois (Population: 12,700,381)
7. Ohio (Population: 11,718,568)
8. Georgia (Population: 10,627,767)
9. North Carolina (Population: 10,497,741)
10. Michigan (Population: 10,020,472)

And what about least populated? What are the least populated states in the United States? Here is a list of the top ten least populated states in the country:

1. Wyoming (Population: 572,381)
2. Vermont (Population: 627,180)
3. District of Columbia (Population: 711,571)
4. Alaska (Population: 735,720)
5. North Dakota (Population: 760,900)
6. South Dakota (Population: 892,631)
7. Delaware (Population: 975,033)
8. Rhode Island (Population: 1,056,738)
9. Montana (Population: 1,074,532)
10. Maine (Population: 1,342,097)

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[DizRotus]

9 minutes ago, dtel said:

So your fine with states and cities with who make up the largest population deciding all of the elections. This has nothing to do with who we vote for, but  where the most votes come from.

 

https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/

What are the most populated states in the United States? Here is a list of the top ten most populated states in the country:

1. California (Population: 39,747,267)
2. Texas (Population: 29,087,070)
3. Florida (Population: 21,646,155)
4. New York (Population: 19,491,339)
5. Pennsylvania (Population: 12,813,969)
6. Illinois (Population: 12,700,381)
7. Ohio (Population: 11,718,568)
8. Georgia (Population: 10,627,767)
9. North Carolina (Population: 10,497,741)
10. Michigan (Population: 10,020,472)

And what about least populated? What are the least populated states in the United States? Here is a list of the top ten least populated states in the country:

1. Wyoming (Population: 572,381)
2. Vermont (Population: 627,180)
3. District of Columbia (Population: 711,571)
4. Alaska (Population: 735,720)
5. North Dakota (Population: 760,900)
6. South Dakota (Population: 892,631)
7. Delaware (Population: 975,033)
8. Rhode Island (Population: 1,056,738)
9. Montana (Population: 1,074,532)
10. Maine (Population: 1,342,097)

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Yes.  One person, one vote.  Where you live makes no difference.  Anything else makes a vote in Maine more important than a vote in California.

[sputnik]

It seems contrary to it’s original intent when a handful of swing states determine the election outcome over of a majority of voters.  Arizona, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Florida, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Colorado will decide.

[BigStewMan]

4 minutes ago, sputnik said:

It seems contrary to it’s original intent when a handful of swing states determine the election outcome over of a majority of voters.  Arizona, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Florida, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Colorado will decide.

what also is contrary is that Florida votes twice.

[dtel]

7 minutes ago, DizRotus said:

Anything else makes a vote in Maine more important than a vote in California.

Except for totally different lifestyles and beliefs, neither is more important so large populations/cities  who believe the rest of the country does not really count " fly over states" . This is  also similar to why redistricting is important, in many cases minority's were not or barely counting.

[sputnik]

2 minutes ago, BigStewMan said:

what also is contrary is that Florida votes twice.

 

 Whooops, looks like Florida did vote twice - no surprise there.

[dtel]

3 minutes ago, BigStewMan said:

what also is contrary is that Florida votes twice.

Split personalities should only vote once, it is Florida your talking about.

[BigStewMan]

13 minutes ago, sputnik said:

 

 Whooops, looks like Florida did vote twice - no surprise there.

the second time was probably a hanging Chad; but they probably can't hold a candle to Illinois.

[BigStewMan]

Here's something to ponder ... if some dead people still manage to cast absentee ballots (and I have to agree they most certainly are absent), then I guess it's right that some still received stimulus checks ...I mean, despite their lack of living, they're managing to continue to fulfill their civic obligation of voting. 

Besides, they're probably the only ones still listening to campaign speeches (can you say captive audience) ... well, maybe not (D) and (R) are still managing to get elected.