314carpenter Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said: From your link: Read the takeaway points very carefully. Nothing says face coverings don't work. It says cloth coverings are recommended. It also says they are not substitutes for distancing, washing hands, etc. Yup. And I am not giving up my stockpile of N-95's to anyone. I knew this day was coming, and their lack of planning is not my emergency. https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data Link is from 4/1, so new information previously posted has additional meaning 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 More on Youtube censorship. Quote Elon Musk blasts YouTube for banning Californian doctors' video that claimed physicians are being pressurized into putting Coronavirus on death certificates and urged an end to shutdowns 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
314carpenter Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said: Elon Musk named his kid X Æ A-12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just now, Jeff Matthews said: More on Youtube censorship. Pressurized? 🙂 Well $13K for COVID on report, $39K if you get the benefit of a ventilator. Money never leads to pressure. Brix did say they were being "Quite liberal" with the classification. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 9th Circuit Court of Appeals holds Youtube is not a public forum subject to First Amendment scrutiny. https://venturebeat.com/2020/02/27/google-defeats-conservative-groups-youtube-censorship-appeal/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, 314carpenter said: Thread is full of misinformation, confusion, and double talk again. Time for a repost for the straight facts. https://www.lung.org/blog/update-covid-19 Nicely designed site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, 314carpenter said: named his kid X Æ A-12 How do you pronounce that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 I do a lot of YouTube. "Free speech" that spreads misinformation and that can potentially hurt people during a public health emergency should be removed. I love the folks that throw a stethoscope around their neck just make sure you know they're for real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
314carpenter Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said: How do you pronounce that? the name is pronounced like the letters X, A, and I. So if you were saying it all in one go, you'd say "ecks aye eye." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlipschFish Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, 314carpenter said: named his kid X Æ A-12 I know that means something (I think). I just don't know what. How do you yell at him to come home for dinner? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said: More on Youtube censorship. Jeff, I have two Doctors as my Facebook friends. I have two infectious disease specialists as friends also. My best man at my wedding 30 years ago is a micro biologist and owns his own Lab with several PhDs working for him. I have a Respiratory therapist that I went to College with about 24 years ago that won the best Reparatory therapist in the state of Ohio for all Ohio State Campuses that I am still Facebook friends with. I have a Physicians assistant of my friends list and at least more than a Dozen Nurses and also my wife who is an RN. I did not get this group of friends by being pleasant or kissing butt. I got them because I am intelligent and well versed on things we discuss. I currently have two separate threads that I have had for about a month or more brainstorming Covid-19 experiences and thoughts. I try to convey things I know and have been made aware of. I would never say allegedly on anything you or my brother stated about the law, though I might ask questions.... Please realize that anything I state here has been publicly vetted prior. My only incentive is to inform. Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Deang said: I do a lot of YouTube. "Free speech" that spreads misinformation and that can potentially hurt people during a public health emergency should be removed. I love the folks that throw a stethoscope around their neck just make sure you know they're for real. I do a lot of Youtube, too. While I agree some censorship is appropriate to protect the public, I disagree with censoring the video of the former employee (who I don't really believe all that much) and the videos of the docs pointing out how improper motives exist to inflate the perceived danger of the pandemic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said: 9th Circuit Court of Appeals holds Youtube is not a public forum subject to First Amendment scrutiny. https://venturebeat.com/2020/02/27/google-defeats-conservative-groups-youtube-censorship-appeal/ To me that is absurd. JJK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
314carpenter Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, KlipschFish said: I know that means something (I think). I just don't know what. How do you yell at him to come home for dinner? the X stands for "the unknown variable," that Æ is her "elven spelling of Ai (love &/or Artifical intelligence)," and that A-12 is the precursor to her and Musk's favorite aircraft, the SR-71 Blackbird. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Jeff Matthews said: I do a lot of Youtube, too. While I agree some censorship is appropriate to protect the public, I disagree with censoring the video of the former employee (who I don't really believe all that much) and the videos of the docs pointing out how improper motives exist to inflate the perceived danger of the pandemic. We will have to disagree here. It's a novel virus that has the potential to wipe out millions. Any doctor who says different should have their medical license revoked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said: 9th Circuit Court of Appeals holds Youtube is not a public forum subject to First Amendment scrutiny. https://venturebeat.com/2020/02/27/google-defeats-conservative-groups-youtube-censorship-appeal/ They should still be put under scrutiny for providing Propaganda by controlling the narrative of a nation wide source of disinformation. Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Deang said: We will have to disagree here. It's a novel virus that has the potential to wipe out millions. Any doctor who says different should have their medical license revoked. They (not Youtube) have been trying the same tactics against climate change deniers, too. "You're either with us or against us." We need to guard against being forced into herds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Deniers should go next. I have yet to find one that can understand a simple middle school science experiment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Deang said: We will have to disagree here. It's a novel virus that has the potential to wipe out millions. Any doctor who says different should have their medical license revoked. I disagree with you. Further more, a certain Governor of Michigan who threatened jail to any Doctor who prescribed Chloroquine should be incarcerated for it. She is not a medical professional and fully based her decision on politics, possibly endangering untold lives. Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Deang said: Deniers should go next. I have yet to find one that can understand a simple middle school science experiment. You might not ever appreciate that freedom must include the freedom to be wrong or even an idiot. China doesn't tolerate people who are wrong or idiots. They just disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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