Bosco-d-gama Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 11 hours ago, dwilawyer said: Coincidently, we watched two items on Amazon Prime this weekend. The first was a documentary about getting prepared for avian flu, being prepared, stockpiling antiviral medications, etc. It call The Coming Pandemic. They discussed not if, but when. The experts laid out what would need to occur to minimize deaths, impact, etc. It was made 15 years ago in 2005. They (the experts) have been warning about a bug coming out of Asia for decades and what is necessary to be prepared. The other was a Korean made disaster type movie call The Flu (go figure). It was made in 2013. Both were interesting to watch in light of the current reality. And then Prex Bush got the country prepared for a pandemic. He revamped our footing, funded the supplies and had us prepped. Still the key factor in this event was the failure of our watchdog, the WHO and China’s bungled public health policies and response. Given the near instant international dispersal of such an infectious virus being prepared is a relative term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Deang said: Turns out it started as a travel restriction, not a ban. By the time it was issued, it was already in the US. https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/ welcome to the USA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Deang said: Turns out it started as a travel restriction, not a ban. By the time it was issued, it was already in the US. https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/ So [removed] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, pzannucci said: I guess if we see a second wave, we'll know. Well, I think that is inevitable. Hopefully people realize that opening up only means they have an available bed in the ICU. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Bosco-d-gama said: So [removed] No, I was just pointing out that I called it a ban and it wasn't. By the time the WHO issued its warning, it had already been in the country for a week. We also know, at least I think we know this - that the virus got into New York from Europe, because it was the modified strain. Just a mess all of the way around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Deang said: Well, I think that is inevitable. Hopefully people realize that opening up only means they have an available bed in the ICU. a song comes to mind -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enJiLuH9YUA&list=RDenJiLuH9YUA&start_radio=1&t=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, richieb said: And recall the pushback and calls [Removed, reluctantly, but when you have banter between the presumptive nominees of next cycle, hard to leave it] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 [Removed the political introduction, left the apolitical statement] What we need is cool heads and a well thought out strategy. I think everyone is tired of the mud slinging. It's normally fine, but not during a national crisis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Deang said: By the time the WHO issued its warning, it had already been in the country for a week. We also know, at least I think we know this - that the virus got into New York from Europe, because it was the modified strain. Just a mess all of the way around. 1 hour ago, Deang said: he forgot "ineptitude". You say the WHO was late, it was traveling here from more than one direction and is a mess all he way around [removed ripple effect response] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, Deang said: Well, I think that is inevitable. Hopefully people realize that opening up only means they have an available bed in the ICU. We really have no choice. We are being smoked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Woofers and Tweeters said: You say the WHO was late, it was traveling here from more than one direction and is a mess all he way around, and you still say 'ineptitude' as though it's Trumps fault. You're just a hater on a mission. If it wasn't the Wuhan Virus, it would be something else. You're conflating different issues. I know it's difficult, but try to keep up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, Deang said: He forgot "ineptitude". He should have just said, "We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump." What we need is cool heads and a well thought out strategy. I think everyone is tired of the mud slinging. It's normally fine, but not during a national crisis. Have to love the alternative. Pretty bad all the way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Are we supposed to wear a mask or not wear one? Fauci said there is no need for a mask, then flipped on that. He has proven himself a liar, and once that trust is broken, then trust is never 100% on anything the lair says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Woofers and Tweeters said: Are we supposed to wear a mask or not wear one? Fauci said there is no need for a mask, then flipped on that. He has proven himself a liar, and once that trust is broken, then trust is never 100% on anything the lair says. Has been discussed ad nauseum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Woofers and Tweeters said: Are we supposed to wear a mask or not wear one? Fauci said there is no need for a mask, then flipped on that. He has proven himself a liar, and once that trust is broken, then trust is never 100% on anything the lair says. Bottom line is just watch the people involved. You can surmise their agenda. Most have something they want to get out of this. I can tell one person wants to be the savior, at any cost. The worse it looks, the more proud they will be. Bias is rampant and I wish they would get out of the way of the people who don't have an agenda and just want to work toward a cure. The govt will pay so that is not an issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, Deang said: He forgot "ineptitude". He should have just said, "We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump." What we need is cool heads and a well thought out strategy. I think everyone is tired of the mud slinging. It's normally fine, but not during a national crisis. After the collusion fiasco and how our national intelligence and DOJ orchestrated the whole scheme, I don't trust much of anything. A national crisis is the perfect time to continue the charade. If there was any meat on the bone to the Russia narrative, the scalliwags involved would have been seen as heros. But there was a big, fat nothing-burger at the end, and now it highlights what a grand scale fiasco it was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 23 minutes ago, Deang said: What we need is cool heads and a well thought out strategy. during a national crisis. ASAP - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I'm not a high level policy decision maker [removed the political commentary] 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Every time I look up the mask thing I come to a different conclusion. It's easy to say "he lied", but I'm not always sure that's completely fair. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/preventing-coronavirus-facemask-60-minutes-2020-03-08/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab5j&linkId=84037176&fbclid=IwAR1OdWX37AReJIVi43AJjRhVArVXXHMFlDqLGh7C9ExK1-2EEf8hyCbXjO4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I've also seen a post or two way back where it was implied by someone that I was giving China a pass. I was like, when did THAT happen? I only remember saying the available data backed up their insistence that it wasn't developed, or escaped from a lab. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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