OO1 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 15 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said: the notion of seeding an pandemic illness is to control your adversaries, fixed it - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 6/3/2020 at 11:15 AM, billybob said: You also were continuing based on China hacking of US medical research facilities. yes-correct , and it's happening in Europe as well in conjunction with the USA attacks - European supercomputers hacked, apparently to mine cryptocurrency https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/european-supercomputers-hacked-mine-cryptocurrency/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilC Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Some good news! https://nypost.com/2020/06/04/nyc-reports-no-new-coronavirus-deaths-for-first-time-since-mid-march/ Lets keep this going!! https://news.wbfo.org/post/cuomo-advises-protesters-get-coronavirus-test. If positive, please self quarantine for 2 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilC Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 More good news https://finance.yahoo.com/news/may-jobs-report-2020-coronavirus-pandemic-unemployment-rate-payrolls-151210655.html?.tsrc=notification-brknews "The May jobs report showed an unexpected rise in the number of non-farm payrolls in the economy and a drop in the unemployment rate from April, averting what economists expected would be a rise in the jobless rate to the highest level since the Great Depression amid the coronavirus pandemic."" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 Well the covid19 roller coaster looks to be set for more thrills and spills........ and this time America has itself to blame. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said: Well the covid19 roller coaster looks to be set for more thrills and spills........ and this time America has itself to blame. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html I'm sure you're not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, CECAA850 said: I'm sure you're not surprised. At this point it is like Poker. Your chips are on the table and you hope you have a winning hand so you let it ride. Now that the recovery is starting I doubt anyone will be trying to lock back up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, pzannucci said: At this point it is like Poker. Your chips are on the table and you hope you have a winning hand so you let it ride. Now that the recovery is starting I doubt anyone will be trying to lock back up again. It's funny how they're doing it here. First restaurants were to go only. Next 25% occupancy then on some random date it was 50%. I think this weekend we're going to 75%. Is there some virus formula that they're using to figure this out? It just seems arbitrary and random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Kinda like the “six foot rule”. I’m sure someone measured the distance a common count/sneeze traveled and that was the magic number. Although it has been found to be inadequate. But if six feet was an average why not play it safe and give some additional space. They should have said ten feet at the outset. A nice number everyone can relate to. Was there not enough space in the country for an additional four feet of safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 I am just hoping we’ve staved it off long enough for some better treatments and medications to have evolved. It is still out there. Now we’ll get to see just how dynamic it can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said: I am just hoping we’ve staved it off long enough for some better treatments and medications to have evolved. It is still out there. Now we’ll get to see just how dynamic it can be. Add to that all the protesting that occurred in already hot spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted June 5, 2020 Moderators Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, pzannucci said: Add to that all the protesting that occurred in already hot spots. We had a minor spike here in Austin/Travis County, but not near what there has been in San Antonio, Dallas and Houston (Assuming the state figures are accurate). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, dwilawyer said: We had a minor spike here in Austin/Travis County, but not near what there has been in San Antonio, Dallas and Houston (Assuming the state figures are accurate). More and more a good idea to lay low for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted June 5, 2020 Moderators Share Posted June 5, 2020 14 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/04/870022834/authors-retract-hydroxychloroquine-study-citing-concern-over-data So we have the first French study back in March that was rejected (not retracted) that said it was effective (and spurred the media frenzy), then a second French study that said, we tried to repeat first French study and cannot duplicate the results, we find it ineffective. Now we have that Worldwide study that says it is ineffective and they are withdrawing that study? Did I understand that right? That study says ineffective? The Remdesivir studies show that it is effective (in terms of reduced time in hospital vs. placebo), and I am not aware of any of the controlled trials being questioned or withdrawn. Travis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, dwilawyer said: So we have the first French study back in March that was rejected (not retracted) that said it was effective (and spurred the media frenzy), then a second French study that said, we tried to repeat first French study and cannot duplicate the results, we find it ineffective. Now we have that Worldwide study that says it is ineffective and they are withdrawing that study? Did I understand that right? That study says ineffective? The Remdesivir studies show that it is effective (in terms of reduced time in hospital vs. placebo), and I am not aware of any of the controlled trials being questioned or withdrawn. Travis The studies are tainted so they can't decide what to do. Keep on letting politics and money into the picture. I had even thought there were some questions on the Remdesivir studies. Go figure. Seems there are several therapeutic possibilities. Choose your poison literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 What bothers me is after you get the Covid 19 and survive it I don't won't to hear the doctor saying that "You have heart damage, lung damage, liver damage, pancreous damage, hearing damage, eyesight damage, hair damage, and you are now sterile from the aftereffects of covid 19 but you have the antibodies to carry on. Yippee! JJK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted June 5, 2020 Moderators Share Posted June 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, pzannucci said: I had even thought there were some questions on the Remdesivir studies. Go figure. That could be, I just don't recall seeing any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 hours ago, dwilawyer said: So we have the first French study back in March that was rejected (not retracted) that said it was effective (and spurred the media frenzy), then a second French study that said, we tried to repeat first French study and cannot duplicate the results, we find it ineffective. Now we have that Worldwide study that says it is ineffective and they are withdrawing that study? Did I understand that right? That study says ineffective? The Remdesivir studies show that it is effective (in terms of reduced time in hospital vs. placebo), and I am not aware of any of the controlled trials being questioned or withdrawn. Travis There has been 1 follow up study on remdesivir showing it to be not as effective as the prior report. The Lancet hydroxychlorquine study had no business being published and would not have been published if not for the opportunity to take a poke at Trump. If hydroxychlorquine has any positive use in the treatment of covid19 it is not dramatic. It all may soon be moot. Both remdesivir and hydroxychlorquine are drugs designed for other viruses that were used for covid19 in hopes of benefit. There are now drugs in the pipeline designed for covid19 that look much more effective. A handful are now entering human trials. These are not vaccines but antiviral meds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 hours ago, JJkizak said: What bothers me is after you get the Covid 19 and survive it I don't won't to hear the doctor saying that "You have heart damage, lung damage, liver damage, pancreous damage, hearing damage, eyesight damage, hair damage, and you are now sterile from the aftereffects of covid 19 but you have the antibodies to carry on. Yippee! JJK Agreed......... but only time will tell. There are 3 scenarios here. One is where the virus remains in the body in a dormant state causing no acute illness but still alive and then reactivates in some manner. That’s how shingles is related to chicken pox. The second scenario is where organs are damaged by our immune system during the course of the infection. That’s is what occurs with rheumatic/scarlet fever. Unfortunately we already know that covid19 causes hefty immune system responses so there is some likelihood this will occur. Lastly are the damages inflicted during the infection by the infection. I’d think that anyone who survived covid19 pneumonia will suffer lung loss/scarring from their infection. Major infections tear up the tissues they infect and the delicate lungs are well known to suffer damage from pneumonic infiltrates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/501392-wave-of-cognitive-disorders-in-young-people-from-covid-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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