oldtimer Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I don't disagree about the failures to disclose. The problem is the unbridled hypocrisy regarding other failures to disclose, which have potentially much worse "ramifications." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 27 minutes ago, oldtimer said: I don't disagree about the failures to disclose. The problem is the unbridled hypocrisy regarding other failures to disclose the old failure to disclose the failure to disclose conundrum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 39 minutes ago, BigStewMan said: the old failure to disclose the failure to disclose conundrum. Missed it by that much... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Maynard, That this thing got loose from a lab is possible, so I don't necessarily consider that conspiratorial theory. That it was done deliberately is something else, I just have trouble with that -- but I wouldn't call it a crazy idea. I was really thinking of the kooks with the tin foil hats when I said that. Some people are just saying some plain nutty stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Deang said: That this thing got loose from a lab is possible, so I don't necessarily consider that conspiratorial theory. That it was done deliberately is something else, I just have trouble with that -- but I wouldn't call it a crazy idea. you & I agree on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted July 2, 2020 Moderators Share Posted July 2, 2020 6 hours ago, tube fanatic said: I'll have to do my own fact checking on this when time permits. If true, it exposes more reasons to be skeptical about the stated reasons for doing research into pathogens having the sole purpose of destroying life: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/06/30/scientists-undisclosed-ties-to-foreign-institutions.aspx?cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art2HL&cid=20200630Z1&et_cid=DM580179&et_rid=905786312 Maynard Anti-vaxer, part of that crowd. The investigation/arrest is for sure 100% real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted July 2, 2020 Moderators Share Posted July 2, 2020 6 hours ago, oldtimer said: https://quackwatch.org/11Ind/mercola/ https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/9-reasons-to-completely-ignore-joseph-mercola-and-natural-news/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola Never saw Quackwatch before, seems like a really, really good source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 10 hours ago, Deang said: Maynard, That this thing got loose from a lab is possible, so I don't necessarily consider that conspiratorial theory. That it was done deliberately is something else, I just have trouble with that -- but I wouldn't call it a crazy idea. I was really thinking of the kooks with the tin foil hats when I said that. Some people are just saying some plain nutty stuff. The virus could have come from a lab but the scientists that analyzed the DNA have said it definitely was not a constructed or lab modified strain. JJK 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 39 minutes ago, JJkizak said: The virus could have come from a lab but the scientists that analyzed the DNA have said it definitely was not a constructed or lab modified strain. JJK Agreed, the covid19 virus was not ‘constructed’. This is not the debate. The debate is whether covid19 was weaponized’. The country of origin is not a 3rd world backwater entity. China has modern communications and is well connected. What did they know and when did they know it...... and how did they respond? The last answer is clear. Their response was inadequate and it failed, miserably. Covid19 now blankets the planet. China was the 1st to know. This is clear. China’s response for itself was extreme. China clamped a lid on Wuhan tighter than a pressure cooker and they enforced it fiercely. In a weeks time they constructed a multi-thousand bed hospital from ‘scratch’ strictly to treat covid19. China knew it was bad. And while China managed its own situation with appropriate earnest it encouraged world travel through Wuhan and demonized any country trying to limit world travel. Whether covid19 escaped from a lab or worked its way in naturally via a disgusting open air meat market, China was aware early how awful it was. China took exceptional care of itself and cultivated reckless care for anywhere else. The result is China being relatively covid19 ‘free’ and everywhere else is heavily covid19 ‘infected’. 2 choices: Covid19 is a hugely stupid mistake (with the WHO being just as stupid), or a keenly demonic scheme to release a known contagion (with the WHO being ‘used’). It is one of these 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Good morning coffee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Masks: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/07/01/880621610/a-users-guide-to-masks-what-s-best-at-protecting-others-and-yourself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 3 hours ago, JJkizak said: The virus could have come from a lab but the scientists that analyzed the DNA have said it definitely was not a constructed or lab modified strain. JJK No just bred to be more vicious naturally or they learned new tricks without gene splicing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said: Agreed, the covid19 virus was not ‘constructed’. This is not the debate. The debate is whether covid19 was weaponized’. The country of origin is not a 3rd world backwater entity. China has modern communications and is well connected. What did they know and when did they know it...... and how did they respond? The last answer is clear. Their response was inadequate and it failed, miserably. Covid19 now blankets the planet. China was the 1st to know. This is clear. China’s response for itself was extreme. China clamped a lid on Wuhan tighter than a pressure cooker and they enforced it fiercely. In a weeks time they constructed a multi-thousand bed hospital from ‘scratch’ strictly to treat covid19. China knew it was bad. And while China managed its own situation with appropriate earnest it encouraged world travel through Wuhan and demonized any country trying to limit world travel. Whether covid19 escaped from a lab or worked its way in naturally via a disgusting open air meat market, China was aware early how awful it was. China took exceptional care of itself and cultivated reckless care for anywhere else. The result is China being relatively covid19 ‘free’ and everywhere else is heavily covid19 ‘infected’. 2 choices: Covid19 is a hugely stupid mistake (with the WHO being just as stupid), or a keenly demonic scheme to release a known contagion (with the WHO being ‘used’). It is one of these 2. Let's let planes fly all over the world since we don't want to be the only country devastated by the virus. The virus was possibly a nice equalizer or if you understand enough about the virus, a hammer. Opportunity was to have been seized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 A good article on masks by the New England Journal of Medicine. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 Here’s a new twist. Contact tracers trying to track a covid19 outbreak amongst teens are failing to get cooperation. Seems like the kids were not supposed to ‘be’ at the party and can’t be honest as to their whereabouts. So........ issue them subpoenas. https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/505437-new-york-county-issues-subpoenas-to-people-refusing-to-talk-to-contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 $hit for brains....... https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/us/alabama-coronavirus-parties-trnd/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said: $hit for brains....... https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/us/alabama-coronavirus-parties-trnd/index.html Dumb asses. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlipschFish Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 ^^ Life is easier when you are young and dumb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 3 hours ago, pzannucci said: No just bred to be more vicious naturally or they learned new tricks without gene splicing. I would hope you can explain "Bred" and "Tricks" with scientific details that don't violate the laws of physics. JJK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 Just when you think you’ve heard it all........ https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/4-hour-erection-coronavirus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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