pzannucci Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, billybob said: The video posted here last week on Elmhurst had Erin and her hospital doctor in Florida treating covid saying Hydroxychloroquine and Zinc worked on saving all their patients. New studies show it was likely more a $$ directive than function. Seems Hydroxy works better than Remdesivir so far even though politics are involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 4 hours ago, pzannucci said: Other US studies, 50% reduction from 26% death rate to 13%. I guess WHO needed to drop it. Maybe they are on the Remdesivir bandwagon now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Guess we responded at near same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, billybob said: Guess we responded at near same time. Interesting "More than 2,500 COVID-19 patients with a median age of 64 were included in the study. The mortality rate for patients who were treated with HCQ alone was 13.5 percent; those treated with HCQ and azithromycin had a 20.1 percent mortality rate; and those who were not treated with either drug had a 26.4 percent mortality rate, the study found." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, pzannucci said: Interesting "More than 2,500 COVID-19 patients with a median age of 64 were included in the study. The mortality rate for patients who were treated with HCQ alone was 13.5 percent; those treated with HCQ and azithromycin had a 20.1 percent mortality rate; and those who were not treated with either drug had a 26.4 percent mortality rate, the study found." Very interesting indeed... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, KlipschFish said: It may be something. But according to 18 U.S.C. § 2331 it isn't an act of war. Acts of hyperbole. Look! A squirrel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 14 hours ago, Jeff Matthews said: Sorry if someone posted this already. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/who-admits-china-never-reported-the-existence-of-coronavirus-outbreak Looks like China is in a pickle now. Proceed with caution as they may act as a caged animal backed into a corner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff. Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 I just received an email from HR, effective Monday the company I work for employing over 6000 workers will have a mandatory face covering policy in the workplace. Call it whatever you want, but it sounds like social responsibility to me, as opposed to any other labels one might bandy about. Will productivity suffer? Not nearly as much as an incapacitated worker completely removed from the workplace AND dragging potentially infected co-workers down with them in the interim. If anything MORE people will need to be employed in order to achieve the same levels of productivity prior to Covid. Possibly by creating more shifts. If applied on a national level, this sort of approach has the potential to turn un-employment figures around. IF governments restructure welfare benefits. That’s a big if. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 It's always more complicated than it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, oldtimer said: Acts of hyperbole. Look! A squirrel! Y’know considering the number of dead involved light-loading an act of contagion irresponsibility is rather telling. It isn’t funny. It’s pretty awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said: Y’know considering the number of dead involved light-loading an act of contagion irresponsibility is rather telling. It isn’t funny. It’s pretty awful. You misunderstand. The congressman has an agenda. Not to defend nor support anyone, but if you read the article closely you will see that it was first reported as some bad form of "viral pneumonia" which is pretty accurate, although does not describe the actual organism responsible. What do you think the congressman really has in mind? I think you are intelligent enough to figure it out. Making light of politicians is not the same as making light of death, nor irresponsibility. Act of war? C'mon. Act of hyperbole? Closer to the truth. What is telling is perhaps something else. And yes, it is awful. Look at our curve versus other countries similar to ours, and tell me all about responsibility. You don't need to, you have been saying the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Making light of politicians is not the same as making light of death, nor irresponsibility. tow the line buddy or be declared obsolete and an enemy of the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 When this first all became obvious you (gama) were the one whose biggest fear was that some "seriously twisted" individual, implicating me or "someone like" me would go around and intentionally infect people. Who are those individuals now? Changed your tune because of who "they" are or you can at least assign it to everyone not taking proper precautions which means a significant portion of the populace, including a subset of congressmen who refused to wear masks on the house floor? Twisted is right. You never apologized, but I forgave a long time ago. I don't forget though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, BigStewMan said: tow the line buddy or be declared obsolete and an enemy of the state. Yeah, well I don't listen to CDs either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Twisted Method is a band... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 minute ago, oldtimer said: Yeah, well I don't listen to CDs either. you shouldn't admit to crimes against music on a public forum. CDs or nothing! Sincerely, The Man who owns zero CDs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 "There are 40 people in the world and five of them are hamburgers." Captain Beefheart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Time for a little confessional action on my part, since learning more recently about ventilators. Recall discussion regarding the use and misuse of ventilators in other, topic threads here that have been retired previous to this thread. Think I argued out of ignorance on the topic and now have more respect for these machines of late and can only say yes to @Bosco-d-gama... Used correctly by a trained operator, these can be a lifesaver. Thanks for the indulgence. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 23 hours ago, CECAA850 said: They did a piss poor job of getting their point across in the first paper then. you got that right , from the get go , who knows how lower the deaths would have been - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Deang said: You don't do war with China without Russia standing next to you. Russia is China's main Weapons supplier , break them up , you win the war - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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