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1 hour ago, oldtimer said:

Private has to do with ownership.  The first amendment only covers the rights of citizens regarding the government.

Not anymore.  Malls, strip centers, etc.  

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1 hour ago, Jeff Matthews said:

They have issued opinions about "speech" in shopping malls, in front of grocery stores, etc.  You might be able to find the law applicable to restaurants.  

Pruneyard Shopping Center v. Robbins, about 1980. Funny realizing that case is 40 years old.

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When people don't know the difference between "weather" and "climate", don't understand the properties of CO2 and CH4, and how/why they contribute to warming, albedo, ocean acidification (positive feedback loops), etc. -- it really shows. Hanging out at the NASA page is a good place to start. You can also work your way through Peter Hadfield's excellent youtube videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52KLGqDSAjo&list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP

 

 

Deniers are corporate shills. There is nothing new here -- just like when doctors and "experts" used to tell you that smoking was good for you. When the facts were done piling up -- well, we all know how that turned out.

 

Scientific "Theory".

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/just-a-theory-7-misused-science-words/

 

https://www.livescience.com/20896-science-scientific-method.html

 

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1 hour ago, oldtimer said:

Private has to do with ownership.  The first amendment only covers the rights of citizens regarding the government.

"Congress shall make no law . . . " or words to that effect.

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15 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said:

Not anymore.  Malls, strip centers, etc.  

Great.  Then I will leave it up to you to apply the principle to this forum, which is privately owned.

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21 minutes ago, dwilawyer said:

"A scientific theory is a well-tested, broad explanation of a natural phenomenon. In everyday life, we often use the word theory to mean a hypothesis or educated guess, but a theory in the context of science is not simply a guess—it is an explanation based on extensive and repeated experimentation,"

 

Not very good definition I don't think. For example. The Theory of Evolution is not based on "repeated experimentation", but on observation, testing, and the accumulation of information that points to a likely conclusion. The "theory", or most likely explanation, stands until there is data that disproves, or falsifies it. 

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28 minutes ago, dwilawyer said:

That's the definition of a "theory" in the scientific realm.

 

Here is a common definition which includes why some get confused on terminology. 

 

Theory of Special Relativity, Theory of Gravity, Theory of Plate Tectonics,  Quantum Theory, etc.

 

"A scientific theory is a well-tested, broad explanation of a natural phenomenon. In everyday life, we often use the word theory to mean a hypothesis or educated guess, but a theory in the context of science is not simply a guess—it is an explanation based on extensive and repeated experimentation,"

 

 

True and if had said there is scientific evidence that supports Climate change, that would be a correct statement and I would say there is also scientific evidence that says otherwise which would also be true. But there is no scientific fact...

 

Roger

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So, now this:

 

The story was first reported on the Military Times and then picked up by the Washington Times. I've been waiting for the rest of the media outlets to pick up it up.

 

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/05/06/coronavirus-survivors-banned-from-joining-the-military/

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/6/military-permanently-disqualifies-coronavirus-surv/

 

I love this line: "... the likelihood of recurring flare-ups, even if someone has had two consecutive negative tests ..."

 

WTF?

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11 minutes ago, twistedcrankcammer said:

 ... and if I would say there is also scientific evidence that says otherwise which would also be true. But there is no scientific fact...

You would be wrong, on both counts.

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4 hours ago, 000 said:

There is flooding every year in the springs in Canada now , and in the west or the east of the country  --------a few years ago -all changed

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/flooding-fort-mcmurray-insurance-financial-aid-1.5554403

 

 

Climate continually changes, nothing new to that. Where is the proof that it was caused by man and  that is only a change in your miniscule window of your experience.

 

Where does it fit as change over eons ??

 

Roger

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24 minutes ago, oldtimer said:

Great.  Then I will leave it up to you to apply the principle to this forum, which is privately owned.

Don't blame me if you don't like it, but private ownership is not the end of the inquiry. Here's the Pruneyard case Travis mentioned:   https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/447/74

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Deang said:

So, now this:

 

The story started here, and was then picked up by the Washington Times. I've been waiting for the rest of the media outlets to pick up the story.

 

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/05/06/coronavirus-survivors-banned-from-joining-the-military/

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/6/military-permanently-disqualifies-coronavirus-surv/

 

I love this line: "... the likelihood of recurring flare-ups, even if someone has had two consecutive negative tests ..."

 

wtf

if there is  a war or a draft , all you gotta do is say , you had covid 19 -------geeez 

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4 hours ago, jimjimbo said:

What's really laughable are your statements which you purport to be facts.  I'll be interested to compare your "facts" right now to your "facts" in 3 or 4 months.

 

 

So the best you can come up with is an unprovoked attack without the ability to defend your own view point or provide any viable proof to an alternative belief..... Sad !!.....

 

Roger

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41 minutes ago, Deang said:

You would be wrong, on both counts.

 

 

Quit pissing and moaning and prove it then !!!

 

Show us Proven Scientific Fact that supports your claims ??

 

I call Bullshit !!

 

Roger

 

[Moderator Edit: there is a thread in here on Global Warming/Climate change, go find it and post about it in there]

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3 minutes ago, twistedcrankcammer said:

Climate continually changes, nothing new to that. Where is the proof that it was caused by man and that is only a change in your minuscule window of your experience.

 

Where does it fit as change over eons ??

 

Roger

 

The proof is in the observations and measurements. You know, science stuff.

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2 hours ago, BigStewMan said:

oh yeah, back when scientists were warning of the coming of another ice age. 


The consensus of researchers then, and even earlier, was CO2 induced warming. 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, twistedcrankcammer said:

 

 

Quit pissing and moaning and prove it then !!!

 

Show us Proven Scientific Fact that supports your claims ??

 

I call Bullshit !!

 

Roger

 

I'm not responsible for your education, you are. I posted a link to an excellent video series, why not go watch it? I also suggested the NASA page. 

 

They are not my claims, they are the claims of the scientific community that study this stuff and submit peer reviewed papers. 

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8 minutes ago, twistedcrankcammer said:

 

 

Quit pissing and moaning and prove it then !!!

 

Show us Proven Scientific Fact that supports your claims ??

 

I call Bullshit !!

 

Roger

Greta Thunberg edits Twitter bio after Trump mocks Person of Year ...

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24 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said:

Don't blame me if you don't like it, but private ownership is not the end of the inquiry. Here's the Pruneyard case Travis mentioned:   https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/447/74

 

 

I'm not blaming you or disliking it at all.  Think about what it potentially means for the TOS.

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Just now, oldtimer said:

I'm not blaming you or disliking it at all.  Think about what it potentially means for the TOS.

I don't think it does anything because Klipsch isn't popular enough.

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