Dave A Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Yes they are and PM sent. I have started working on mid horns but nothing for the KHorn yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 21 hours ago, Dave A said: Yes they are and PM sent. I have started working on mid horns but nothing for the KHorn yet. I'm to the point that I would like to switch out the original tweeters on my 1972 khorns. I suppose this is a good thread to ask in. Also, does anyone offer the mid range driver assembly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bella said: I'm to the point that I would like to switch out the original tweeters on my 1972 khorns. I suppose this is a good thread to ask in. Also, does anyone offer the mid range driver assembly? the new K-55X should be availalble from Klipsch parts -----what is wrong with your current mids drivers ---------diaphragms can be replaced as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, RandyH000 said: the new K-55X should be availalble from Klipsch parts -----what is wrong with your current mids drivers ---------diaphragms can be replaced as well Everything works great. I've had the crossovers updated about 7 years ago. Just wondering if there are upgrades available to improve the sound. I recently picked up a Naim Uniti Star and while it improved the sound of the khorns, it was sublime on the Palladiums. But those are all doing duty in my 5.1 and I bought the Star for the 2.1 khorns. So I'm just wondering if drivers for the mid and tweeters are available to bring me closer to a modern horn sound. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Bella said: Everything works great. I've had the crossovers updated about 7 years ago. Just wondering if there are upgrades available to improve the sound. I recently picked up a Naim Uniti Star and while it improved the sound of the khorns, it was sublime on the Palladiums. But those are all doing duty in my 5.1 and I bought the Star for the 2.1 khorns. So I'm just wondering if drivers for the mid and tweeters are available to bring me closer to a modern horn sound. the K55X is still used on the new 2021 lascala and k-horn -----12k$ and 15k$ -it's the same driver that you have with minor modifications - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sadie42 said: Well, the old ones do have the spring loaded terminals ... that's called a minor modification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, RandyH000 said: the K55X is still used on the new 2021 lascala and k-horn -----12k$ and 15k$ -it's the same driver that you have with minor modifications - This is reassuring and disappointing all at the same time. Reassuring to know my Khorns are timeless, but disappointing that I can't come closer to the sound the Naim and the Palladiums produced in my 2.1 setup. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bella said: This is reassuring and disappointing all at the same time. Reassuring to know my Khorns are timeless, but disappointing that I can't come closer to the sound the Naim and the Palladiums produced in my 2.1 setup. B you can't compare a Palladium with a 72 Khorn ,a 2020 Cornwall IV sounds better than a 72 khorn ---- the Palladium were designed for the late Millenium so 2007 so 35 years ahead - now the new 2020 AK-6 which has the new Fabulous klipsch tweeter plus the new Crossover -----yeah , these are totally different - sealed backs -revised tweeter and electronics , better audio cabe --etc ----now these would be closer to what you're looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, RandyH000 said: you can't compare a Palladium with a 72 Khorn ,a 2020 Cornwall IV sounds better than a 72 khorn ---- the Palladium were designed for the late Millenium so 2007 so 35 years ahead - now the new 2020 AK-6 which has the new Fabulous klipsch tweeter plus the new Crossover -----yeah , these are totally different - sealed backs -revised tweeter and electronics , better audio cabe --etc ----now these would be closer to what you're looking for Which is kinda of what I was afraid of...comparing old to new(er). Been thinking about selling the khorns and picking up rf7 iii's to replace them. the idea of smaller and newer is appealing, but I am not in an area where I can go and listen before I buy so I have no idea if I'd be going backwards. B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Wonder if Ti diaphragms in tweeter would help refine? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bella said: Which is kinda of what I was afraid of...comparing old to new(er). Been thinking about selling the khorns and picking up rf7 iii's to replace them. the idea of smaller and newer is appealing, but I am not in an area where I can go and listen before I buy so I have no idea if I'd be going backwards. B you're better off looking for a pair of the klipsch LS2 crossovers which were the latest ones with the K77 --k55 - K33 which are the current drivers for the 72 Khorn ---now that would be like 40 years ahead in the sound due to more modern networks versus an AA or an A network which is old school sound - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, RandyH000 said: you're better off looking for a klipsch LS2 crossover which was the latest one with the K77 -- I have crossovers from DeanG so I think they're fine. It's time to make a change I'm just not sure where to go without breaking the bank. I 'think' I can get $4k for my khorns, as they are damn near in new condition...maybe go for the cornwall IV, which I'm reading nothing but great things about. One thing left to try to validate my feelings: move the Palladium p37's into my 2.1 system and listen to them where the khorns are instead of moving the Naim into the 5.1 system. Apples to apples then, I suppose, as far as listening position is concerned. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, Bella said: I have crossovers from DeanG so I think they're fine. It's time to make a change I'm just not sure where to go without breaking the bank. I 'think' I can get $4k for my khorns, as they are damn near in new condition...maybe go for the cornwall IV, which I'm reading nothing but great things about. B you may have a DeanG AA ------still an AA --but with better quality caps ----The AK-5 crossovers are different since they allow biamping -bi wiring and the sound signature is modern --being there are also 2 separate crossover sections -----1 board for the LF , and a second for the HF --- a CW IV is a good option -at 6k$ ----------sell your khorns for 4k$ and that's it , lay out 2k$ ---3rd option would be an Active crossover , so bypassing the passive network , and that can make a huge difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sadie42 said: You should try Dave’s tweeter first. Minimal investment, huge return. If you don’t like what you hear, then sell them. Think just read just above where Dave said he is working(?) on one for the Khorns... Whoops, think he has one... Edited February 16, 2021 by billybob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sadie42 said: Also, what is an “LS2”? The right network would be the AK-4. Yes that one for LS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Dave....might be what I'm looking for. 'Upgrade' the '72 khorns to a more modern sound w/o getting rid of them. I actually would cry if I sold them. So I'm willing to do everything first. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I stand corrected --the AK-5 ------slip up here LS2 --long day on this end - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, Bella said: So I'm willing to do everything first. I used to own Khorns. I found a mod that was drop-in and upgraded the sound by a magnitude. I never liked the K-77, all those squeaks and squawks. There is no real audio content (like a trumpet) that came out of the tweeter section. I found a combination of B&C CD $106 and SEOS waveguide $28 that sounds tremendous in the Khorn. I placed the SEOS on top to time align it to the mid-range throat. I also used a Crites A/4500 XO and the B&C 250 which can easily handle the lower XO point, 4500 Hz vs the Type AA 6000. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 the AK-5 crossover was the last klipsch crossover for the k-horn that used the k-77 - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 there sole difference with the K77F and the k77 M -was the lense - both tweeters share the same diaphragm /magnet-/cup /screws - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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