tigerwoodKhorns Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 If you are doing a brake job I want to pass this on. I have a 1996 Lexus LS400 that I meticulously maintain and I always use genuine Toyota parts. Last brake job, I decided to use R1 Concepts brake kit. The Kit includes cross drilled and slotted rotors and carbon pads and sensors. I thought that is was all BS to get 20 year old guys excited about their goofy car. I don't like to buy cheap parts and I kept my old parts just in case I needed to have the rotors resurfaced and start over. I was completely wrong. About $225 and the best brakes I have ever had in my car. No dust either. Here is the Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016E23TAU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 The R1 Website has brakes for just about everything (Amazon is very limited) and I just ordered kits for two more vehicles. I went with the heavy duty stuff for an RV and the cheaper eLine and ceramic parts for my truck. They had a 20% off sale and the salesperson gave me an additional discount. https://www.r1concepts.com/ This does not happen often so I wanted to pass this on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just be really careful, many non-OEM cross-drilled rotors can crack very easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, wuzzzer said: Just be really careful, many non-OEM cross-drilled rotors can crack very easily. Didn't know that. I have had these for a few years and so far so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 11 hours ago, tigerwoodKhorns said: Didn't know that. I have had these for a few years and so far so good. Gotcha. I thought you maybe had just put them on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 hours ago, wuzzzer said: Gotcha. I thought you maybe had just put them on. A few years on one vehicle. I went with the same brand for the others and just ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I had a bad experience with cross drill/slotted rotors. But not what you might think. It was when I was driving a 94' Eagle Talon ES. I inherited some money and decided to put on new front brakes. I ordered a pair of Brembo rotors and pads and put them on myself, easy enough. Years go by and now a front brake job is needed again. This time I goto a local tire chain that also does brakes. I drop off the car in the morning and go to work. The end of the day I come back to pick it up as they were closing. That's when I found the big problem. The shop replaced the pads but kept the drilled/slotted rotors the same as they were when I dropped it off. And these rotors were in REALLY bad shape. The grooves in them were horrible since the pads were worn down to nothing. So, the pads now only had about 1/8 the amount of contact area with the worn rotors. I raised cane about it the next day and told them the car was not safe to drive. I even asked the company owner if he would like it if this happened to his Mercedes SL500. Their reply was that the guys working on it didn't think I wanted new rotors since these were so expensive so they just put them back on (I already knew that drilled/slotted rotors should/could no be turned). The only remedy from the owner was to offer to sell me a pair of rotors for cost and they will install them at no charge for labor. Yea....cost them a lot to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Never had a problem turning drilled or slotted rotors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, CECAA850 said: Never had a problem turning drilled or slotted rotors. As long as you have a brake lathe with .0002 runout. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 For the price of these kits I'd rather just replace the rotors. My time to go to a shop and drop them off and then pick them up again is enough to make this not worth it. I also had a kid say that my brand new Toyota rotors could not be turned at a shop once. He was wrong but just not worth the BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 18 hours ago, Mighty Favog said: The only remedy from the owner was to offer to sell me a pair of rotors for cost and they will install them at no charge for labor. Yea....cost them a lot to do that. it takes 1h to replace 2 discs ----no big deal -now had you had an accident ---your own insurance would have disallowed the claim - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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