mopardave Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 9:49 AM, KROCK said: Who did the grills? I built the grills from fiber board. 3/16 stuff i think. Bought at home Depot. I think the grill material was from Gulford Maine. I have another set i'm doing in off white right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, mopardave said: Might have to have Dean build me some. Good luck. He's said he's not taking on any new work but it doesn't hurt to ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeybadger Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 A lot of chefs involved now. I will bow out. I will say the ALK crossover uses a swamping resistor, so basically doesn't care what impedance mid range is used, and therefore should not change the crossover point. My only thought was maybe the crossover was wired wrong. I have done it, everyone makes an error from time to time. HB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopardave Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, CECAA850 said: Good luck. He's said he's not taking on any new work but it doesn't hurt to ask. That sucks. He's quitting or just cutting back for now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopardave Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 53 minutes ago, Honeybadger said: A lot of chefs involved now. I will bow out. I will say the ALK crossover uses a swamping resistor, so basically doesn't care what impedance mid range is used, and therefore should not change the crossover point. My only thought was maybe the crossover was wired wrong. I have done it, everyone makes an error from time to time. HB. Honeybadger, i think you are correct as i have read before that the universals do use the swamping resistor. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 hours ago, mopardave said: That sucks. He's quitting or just cutting back for now? Not sure. Hes scaled back in the past then cranked back up. Last time I talked to him he wasn't taking new work. @Deang? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmi Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Dave, I've still got that pair of Crites cast woofers laying around, plus I have that pair of DeanG crossovers I'm not using at this time. I'm so far behind on my build, it may take me all winter to get them done. Your welcome to come pick them up if you want to do some swapping. The crossovers are 400, 6000, so I don't know if they would work right if you are crossing over at 500, but it would tell you right away how the mids and highs are acting.-kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmi Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Something is not right, and its not your horn. My mid horns are huge, and they are tractrix, and I have them attenuated at -12 db. K-55 in a K-Horn are attenuated at -6 I believe, so 2" drivers should play a lot louder. I have a pair of Selenium D-405 mid drivers you can borrow to see if its the mid drivers causing your problem. They are 2" exit drivers, and weigh 20 lbs apiece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopardave Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, kevinmi said: Something is not right, and its not your horn. My mid horns are huge, and they are tractrix, and I have them attenuated at -12 db. K-55 in a K-Horn are attenuated at -6 I believe, so 2" drivers should play a lot louder. I have a pair of Selenium D-405 mid drivers you can borrow to see if its the mid drivers causing your problem. They are 2" exit drivers, and weigh 20 lbs apiece. I figured you had those mounted by now. I will come over and get those. Dont think ill have time this weekend, but i will next. Ill give ya a call as soon as i get a chance. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:31 PM, mopardave said: No, the cornwalls has k77 k57 and k33 with a b crossover. All components are new to this cabinet. got it now - I thought you simply moved everything over , except the new woofers - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopardave Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 9 hours ago, RandyH000 said: got it now - I thought you simply moved everything over , except the new woofers - No, all new with B&C 120, 85 and 3015lf with new universal crossover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmi Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 8:57 PM, mopardave said: I figured you had those mounted by now. I will come over and get those. Dont think ill have time this weekend, but i will next. Ill give ya a call as soon as i get a chance. Thanks Sounds good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopardave Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 10/25/2020 at 5:31 PM, mopardave said: Since building my Cornscala's which were a Cornwall conversion I'm not liking them much. They sound way laid back compared to the 600 in your face mid horn. Have any of you using the large mid horns noticed this with the Cornscala? Using the zxpc horn with a B&C85. Seems like i have to turn the volume up much further than my Cornwalls or Super Heresy require. Not near as efficient as a typical Klipsch Heritage. Not sure if this is typical of the large mid horn or not. Other thing is using a ALK CSW cross over adjusted to my liking, but still laid back. Maybe the cross over is the culprit or the DE85? OK, kevinmi lent me a Deang universal xover and a crites woofer to try. The improvement was very nice and very noticable. Just a much cleaner sound from the vocals to the cymbals. The crites woofer did play deeper than my 3015lf, but the Deang's were attenuated 1 db more (12 vs 11) CSW. I prefer my 3015lf for now. They still sounded laid back, but it must be the large mid horn. They beg to be turned up. So, i need to find some new xovers or build my own. The Deang xover are very nice piece. Thank you Kevin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmi Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 hours ago, mopardave said: The Deang xover are very nice piece. Thank you Kevin. Glad I could help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeybadger Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I am glad you found something you like. HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 11 hours ago, mopardave said: OK, kevinmi lent me a Deang universal xover So, i need to find some new xovers or build my own. The Deang xover are very nice piece. Thank you Kevin. Yeah , Dean , just does not compromise on quality -----do you have pictures you can share of these crossovers -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopardave Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, RandyH000 said: Yeah , Dean , just does not compromise on quality -----do you have pictures you can share of these crossovers -- Looks like they are too big. Have to post later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff. Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Hey, JUST a thought, does anyone think moving the woofer from behind the motorboard to front mounted would help here? I thought it “de-mellowed” the bass whenever I went that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madman1 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 @mopardaveWhat’s the status of your build? Any pics you can share? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbk Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I am running that horn on top of my chorus II's ( 17 by 10 bi- radial horn ). Runs straight off my crites rebuild crossover with k79 tweeter, crites ti upgrade. Have tried ev dh1a and selenium d408 ti drivers, currently run a clarion 5.25 cone speaker. No problem with volume on any of the drivers just like the sound of the clarion best. Have a pair of cf2's and the chorus's easily outperform them, same volume chorus much louder spl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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