Zen Traveler Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 minute ago, richieb said: We’ve had the shot(s), never heard of or was given V SAFE information. Or was it contained within the legalize consent form that was presented? We got it both times and was among the consent forms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 24 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said: Do you have a link to a non-mainstream news article that is making the same claim? Fwiw, thing about actual News sites is that they have a vetting and editorial process. Indeed “actual” news sites have an editorial process. But you must be remembering the good ol’ days when editing a story was actually that. Nowadays it is editorializing a story, big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Just now, richieb said: Indeed “actual” news sites have an editorial process. But you must be remembering the good ol’ days when editing a story was actually that. Nowadays it is editorializing a story, big difference. Only if you pay attention to the pundits and other people's opinion. I never was a fan of FoxNews until I learned they had an actual News division--Since then I have used them to back up some of my contentions which gets blurred by their punditry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, CECAA850 said: Older people don't use apps 10 minutes ago, richieb said: We’ve had the shot(s), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said: was among the consent forms. 100% correct ---bang in front of one's eyes - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said: Only if you pay attention to the pundits and other people's opinion. I never was a fan of FoxNews until I learned they had an actual News division--Since then I have used them to back up some of my contentions which gets blurred by their punditry. Never mentioned Fox News. Heavens to Betsy and wouldn’t dare - hate to shut down a thread. PC you know - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Your COVID vaccine booster might be a patch or a pill. Or it might come with your flu shot. government researchers have also been working on what form the next generation of vaccines will take. They may be combined with the seasonal flu vaccine, or could come in the form of pills or patches instead of shots. Scientists also envision vaccines that might shield against viruses beyond SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) that could avert future pandemics. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vaccine-booster-options/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said: We got it both times and was among the consent forms. 1 minute ago, RandyH000 said: 100% correct ---bang in front of one's eyes - Im sure it was. And what % of the tens of millions you think read the forms? People went in grateful to have their turn for the shot, last thing on their minds was the mumbo jumbo legal speak of a consent form. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, richieb said: Never mentioned Fox News. Heavens to Betsy and wouldn’t dare - hate to shut down a thread. PC you know - It appears you were lumping all media in the same boat and I was giving a conscientious response. ALL of the major news outlets have pundits sharing opinions along with News resources that are fact-checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 minute ago, richieb said: Im sure it was. And what % of the tens of millions you think read the forms? People went in grateful to have their turn for the shot, last thing on their minds was the mumbo jumbo legal speak of a consent form. Agreed. Toss the paperwork on the ground on the way out was probably the norm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, richieb said: Im sure it was. And what % of the tens of millions you think read the forms? People went in grateful to have their turn for the shot, last thing on their minds was the mumbo jumbo legal speak of a consent form. My co-worker is about not that far from my desk. i asked him what literature he received after his injection. He said that he got the shot, had to wait 15 minutes than was allowed to leave. On the way out he got a paper with the brand of shot he received and the date for the next injection. That was it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 23 minutes ago, richieb said: the mumbo jumbo legal speak of a consent form. you do not sign anything , it's an oral consent , maybe if people would sign a document , they would read the rest of the paperwork they hand you - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, CECAA850 said: My co-worker is about not that far from my desk. i asked him what literature he received after his injection. He said that he got the shot, had to wait 15 minutes than was allowed to leave. On the way out he got a paper with the brand of shot he received and the date for the next injection. That was it. 25 minutes ago, CECAA850 said: Agreed. Toss the paperwork on the ground on the way out was probably the norm. It's hard to comment on "a friends" experience but possibly he was one of the ones that tossed his paperwork and didn't care...Dunno, but I received the information both times and it was part of their protocol when I got the shots. Of course I can't comment on other people's experiences but feel you may be correct in your last assumption given what I thought was the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, RandyH000 said: you do not sign anything , it's an oral consent , maybe if people would sign a document , they would read the rest of the paperwork they hand you - I mean - really? How many people actually READ consent forms, or terms of service etc. etc.etc.? These “consent” forms are drawn by teams of legal beagles obviously favoring that being consented to. Ain’t a one of us that has read word for word the Klipsch TOS for the forum we subscribe to. And everyone of us has broken one or two clauses in that form whether it was read or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said: he was one of the ones that tossed his paperwork and didn't care.. Nope. His wife went at a different location, different time. same scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Dang, I got a card with first shot. Brought it back for the 2nd. Guess it is my passport. Signed a consent form. Handout information both times. Vsafe on handout. Did not use. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, CECAA850 said: Nope. His wife went at a different location, different time. same scenario. All I can say their experience is different than what's being reported here from us who have been vaccinated. Again, it's hard to comment about a friend of a friend's experience but I thought the paperwork including V-safe was protocol. I imagine some could've missed it for various reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, richieb said: I mean - really? How many people actually READ consent forms, or terms of service etc. etc.etc.? These “consent” forms are drawn by teams of legal beagles obviously favoring that being consented to. Ain’t a one of us that has read word for word the Klipsch TOS for the forum we subscribe to. And everyone of us has broken one or two clauses in that form whether it was read or not. Speak for yourself and some of us are MORE than aware of what's in the Klipsch TOS. On that note, the Covid shot was a big deal and there was valuable information that we were given including warnings that seemed pertinent and info who to contact if you had an ill-effect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 https://www.fastcompany.com/90614789/cdc-v-safe-vaccine-program-inaccessible-smartphone So 20% of those vaccinated couldn't use V safe even if they knew about it. Another 25 million people who don't speak English can't use it either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 2 hours ago, richieb said: I mean - really? How many people actually READ consent forms, well , let's hope that people will not regret giving their consent so eagerly to Pfizer-Moderna -JJ- there are no predetermined compensation rules or amounts one can claim , would someone die or suffer serious ill-effects from a Covid 19 vaccine - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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