Bosco-d-gama 1123 Posted January 9 55 minutes ago, henry4841 said: My grandson, 19 years old, barely knew he had the virus. The only reason he is pretty sure he got it is losing smell and taste and feeling somewhat bad for 3 days. This was a few weeks after going to college. My limited understanding of Covid is that losing smell and taste is a good sign you have it. He said it was prevalent at college for a few weeks after opening and was pretty much gone now. My best friend, 70 years old and in good health, died a few days after getting the virus. Old cars die more often then newer cars. Too many parts with too many miles on them. Seniors need to be extremely careful. Autopsies have been done on the covid19 dead. What has been found is vascular damage at the capillary level, microbleeds. These have been found in most organ systems and has been associated with the sensory losses of taste and smell. Survivors have been studied and internal damages/scars have been identified. Older people die because they essentially have used up their bodies. If during their lives they abused their bodies they tend to die sooner. Smokers die sooner. Alcoholics die sooner. Diabetics, drug addicts, etc and so on........ all expire sooner because those conditions imperil/impact healthy aging. Now medical science is uncertain exactly how covid19 survivors will be impacted in the long term from their infections. My message is that if you take good care of your ‘young car’ it will last a lot longer than if you do not. So I somewhat disagree with the statement that “seniors need to be extremely careful.” EVERYONE needs to be extremely careful. Everyone needs to deploy every measure that is known to halt the spread of covid19. Everyone should fear covid19 as if they were 80 years old. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob 13471 Posted January 9 No, Brenda Lee! Liked Skeeter though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tube fanatic 1150 Posted January 9 16 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said: What has been found is vascular damage at the capillary level, microbleeds. These have been found in most organ systems These changes have also been found in the retinal microvasculature. It is important to have a comprehensive eye exam post recovery, especially if there are known retinal vascular issues. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30294-7/fulltext Maynard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henry4841 301 Posted January 9 Cannot disagree with your post Bosco-d-gama. Everyone should be careful with highlight on should. But we know the young will carry on not thinking it will hurt them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bosco-d-gama 1123 Posted January 9 12 minutes ago, henry4841 said: Cannot disagree with your post Bosco-d-gama. Everyone should be careful with highlight on should. But we know the young will carry on not thinking it will hurt them. So here’s the reality. We have watched covid19 rampage through countries and our own cities. Right now it is burying the healthcare systems in Southern California. I know those places personally. It is terrifying and incomprehensible to understand what is happening. Now is the time to knuckle down and hammer the message to everyone. Already we have covid mutations evolving. One wrong mutation and this starts all over again. One new strain of covid19 and all previous immunities to the ‘old’ covid19 can be wiped out and the new vaccines rendered useless. Everyone who had covid19 can get it again.... and it could be insanely more virulent. It is time for that whatever version of ‘come to Jesus’ discussions can be had to get the younger population as determined as anyone to corral up covid19. This is history making and I’d rather the future not denote this time as they great die-off when 2/3rds of humanity succumbed for not taking the baby steps needed to intelligently control an otherwise manageable pathogen. Sorry to sound so deeply ‘determined’ here. But in So. California they are setting up 80 refrigerated morgue trucks. The wheels are coming off their axles. It is insane. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputnik 981 Posted January 9 15 hours ago, BigStewMan said: I'll take the vaccine first day it's offered to me. Getting the protection without the illness is the smart way to go. Getting antibodies after you've had the illness is like buying a car in pieces and you have to put it together yourself. 👍 Months after infection with SARS-CoV-2, some people are still battling crushing fatigue, lung damage and other symptoms of ‘long COVID’. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02598-6 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyH000 5937 Posted January 9 5 hours ago, henry4841 said: My grandson, 19 years old, barely knew he had the virus. Well , at least we know that our G-kids have some natural form of resistance , to the Virus , I think our younger generations must be the 1st to get the vaccines , since any weakness in the lower ages group would be far worse to their elders - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyH000 5937 Posted January 9 'This is our most dangerous time.' Covid-19 deaths are at unprecedented levels in US https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/09/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyH000 5937 Posted January 9 Suspicions grow that nanoparticles in Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine trigger rare allergic reactions https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12/suspicions-grow-nanoparticles-pfizer-s-covid-19-vaccine-trigger-rare-allergic-reactions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyH000 5937 Posted January 9 Hundreds of thousands of COVID-19 vaccines haven’t been used in Pa. and N.J. Here’s why, and what’s next https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-covid-19-pa-nj-philly-vaccine-rollout-slow-vaccination-challenges-pace-20210109.html 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigStewMan 19772 Posted January 9 I don't know the ins & outs of this process; but I'm finding this slow vaccination to be exceedingly disappointing. It's not like we didn't see a vaccine on the horizon, shouldn't they have planned this better? back in my military days, we had plans and exercises for all kinds of different scenarios ... so if they really happened, we weren't at square one in our response. I don't know where the fault ultimately belongs; but you'd think the powers to be would have known all the particulars and planned accordingly. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyH000 5937 Posted January 9 Covid-19: Queen and Prince Philip receive vaccinations , however which vaccine is undisclosed -- https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55602007 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richieb 7204 Posted January 9 1 minute ago, RandyH000 said: Covid-19: Queen and Prince Philip receive vaccinations , however which vaccine is undisclosed -- https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55602007 Ooohhhh - can’t wait for that mystery to be solved. I guess another restless night, ya know, being on pins and needles — I mean really, who gives a rats arse? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob 13471 Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, BigStewMan said: I don't know the ins & outs of this process; but I'm finding this slow vaccination to be exceedingly disappointing. It's not like we didn't see a vaccine on the horizon, shouldn't they have planned this better? back in my military days, we had plans and exercises for all kinds of different scenarios ... so if they really happened, we weren't at square one in our response. I don't know where the fault ultimately belongs; but you'd think the powers to be would have known all the particulars and planned accordingly. The hiccups should become better now going forward. Your local health department may have some info as well as Walgreens and CVS, also Rite Aid. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigStewMan 19772 Posted January 9 11 minutes ago, richieb said: Ooohhhh - can’t wait for that mystery to be solved. I guess another restless night, ya know, being on pins and needles — I mean really, who gives a rats arse? I'll answer that later Richie ... I'm trying to find out when replacing the toilet paper in the castle, does the queen use the paper OVER the roll method or let it hang below the roll? the way she does it could end this pandemic. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob 13471 Posted January 9 10 minutes ago, billybob said: The hiccups should become better now going forward. Your local health department may have some info as well as Walgreens and CVS, also Rite Aid. Should have said, thinking some National guard personnel may indeed help out. Saw some with our governor recently. Good move I would say... @BigStewMan 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richieb 7204 Posted January 9 4 minutes ago, BigStewMan said: I'll answer that later Richie ... I'm trying to find out when replacing the toilet paper in the castle, does the queen use the paper OVER the roll method or let it hang below the roll? the way she does it could end this pandemic. I seriously doubt she is aware. I’m sure she has a Royal butt wiper sufficiently trained in all manner of wiping, digging, patting, rubbing, swabbing, etc. The over or under is at the desire of the wiper, not the wipee— 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyH000 5937 Posted January 9 20 minutes ago, richieb said: Ooohhhh - can’t wait for that mystery to be solved. I guess another restless night, ya know, being on pins and needles — I mean really, who gives a rats arse? I do - The Queen E II definitely took the best Vaccine out of the 3 currently available - -the question remains which one ? did her Doctors recommend -Pfizer-Moderna-Oxford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richieb 7204 Posted January 9 1 minute ago, RandyH000 said: I do , Because whatever of the 3 Vaccines available , the Queen definitely took the best Vaccine out of the 3 currently available - -the question remains which one ? did her Doctors recommend -Pfizer-Moderna-Oxford So she received “the best” as probably did our esteemed government officials. What makes you think you’ll receive the same? Like most of us you will get what your given, and like it — Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyH000 5937 Posted January 9 6 minutes ago, richieb said: So she received “the best” as probably did our esteemed government officials. What makes you think you’ll receive the same? Like most of us you will get what your given, and like it — I would opt for the Moderna , if I had the option - 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites