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6 hours ago, Trey Cannon said:

....Is that like when folks get a flu shot...the shot will stop all flu?  No, and they have had YEARS to "get it right".  The last year and a bit have done it. There is no more flu. (it's all covid now) In indiana there was 168000 cases of flu in 2019...168 in 2020. Where did it all go? Did everyone get a shot and now the flu is gone?  NO.  Just like with this lab test, the population is the lab rat.  We don't get the flu and we DON"T get the flu shot.  Same for this 98% recoverable and survivable  bug.  F the shot and the money bags it rode up on.

Flu shot is a completely different animal. There are hundreds of completely different flu viruses. The flu shot in any given year can only address about 4. The flu shot covers the 4 or so most severe types of influenza predicted for a given year. 

 

Covid-SARS-2 is one virus with variants. The current vaccines are effective against the current virus and the UK and South African variants. 

 

It's apples and oranges.

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Vietnam defied the experts and sealed its border to keep Covid-19 out. It worked.

How the country has kept coronavirus deaths to just 35, and grew its economy in 2020.

As the pandemic took hold last year, travel restrictions quickly proliferated — they were the second-most-common policy governments adopted to combat Covid-19. According to one review, never in recorded history has global travel been curbed in “such an extreme manner”: a reduction of approximately 65 percent in the first half of 2020. More than a year later, as countries experiment with vaccine passports, travel bubbles, and a new round of measures to keep virus variants at bay, a maze of confusing, ever-changing restrictions remains firmly in place.

https://www.vox.com/22346085/covid-19-vietnam-response-travel-restrictions

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Indian Super Rich Flee World’s Worst COVID Outbreak on Private Jets

Eight private jets carrying India’s super wealthy—and potentially the coronavirus—landed in London ahead of the U.K.’s 4 a.m. ban on travel from India, All non-British or non-Irish citizens will be banned entirely from entering the country if they have been in India in the previous 10 days. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson had to cancel his own state visit to India scheduled for next week as a “precautionary measure.”

The last of the luxury airliners to arrive, VistaJet Bombardier Global 6000, which left Dubai Thursday to collect passengers in Mumbai, landed at 3:15 a.m., just 44 minutes before the restrictions took place.

https://news.yahoo.com/fire-rips-icu-india-suffers-113653505.html

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India reports more than 330,000 new Covid cases, setting a fresh global record

 

 

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17 minutes ago, RandyH000 said:

MIT researchers say you’re no safer from Covid indoors at 6 feet or 60 feet in new study challenging social distancing policies

whew! Glad I adopted a 61 foot bubble around me. people laughed; but I told them 61 feet were necessary. 

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2 hours ago, RandyH000 said:

COVID Is Ravaging India Harder Than Ever, And The Situation Is Only Getting Worse

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/india-second-covid-wave

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Honestly I thought it would be worse early on for them considering their population, sanitary conditions and proximity to each other.

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48 minutes ago, CECAA850 said:

Honestly I thought it would be worse early on for them considering their population, sanitary conditions and proximity to each other.

India-Pakistan and China , that's 3 billion population  ---------ouch , that could be millions of dead if they dont control it quickly - God Help Them -

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12 hours ago, RandyH000 said:

MIT researchers say you’re no safer from Covid indoors at 6 feet or 60 feet in new study challenging social distancing policies

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/17/e2018995118

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/23/mit-researchers-say-youre-no-safer-from-covid-indoors-at-6-feet-or-60-feet-in-new-study.html

Again displaying how much mis information we've been given over the past year.  More to come im sure. 

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16 minutes ago, CECAA850 said:

Again displaying how much mis information we've been given over the past year.  More to come im sure. 

Calling what's come out of our CDC "disinformation" is BS and this MIT study is one of many that need to be scrutinized. Otoh, it's gonna be Goverment elected officials that promoted disinformation and played down the pandemic the first year that cost us the most...If you don't believe me check out what was coming out of their mouths a year ago. 😞

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On 3/10/2020 at 9:47 PM, CECAA850 said:

China is a cesspool of germs.  Safety and hygiene are second thoughts.  It's the perfect storm for something like this to occur.   No i don't think the US will be affected in the same manner.

China handled the virus better than we did.

10 hours ago, CECAA850 said:

Honestly I thought it would be worse early on for them considering their population, sanitary conditions and proximity to each other.

Aren't you surprised how hard Covid-19 hit us?

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18 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said:

Otoh, it's gonna be Goverment elected officials that promoted disinformation and played down the pandemic the first year that cost us the most...If you don't believe me check out what was coming out of their mouths a year ago. 😞

Good old Zen.  Always desperately trying to lock threads by bringing up politics.  If nothing else you're consistent. 

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12 hours ago, RandyH000 said:

MIT researchers say you’re no safer from Covid indoors at 6 feet or 60 feet in new study challenging social distancing policies

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/17/e2018995118

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/23/mit-researchers-say-youre-no-safer-from-covid-indoors-at-6-feet-or-60-feet-in-new-study.html

While this study questions distancing guidelines it also expresses harsher measures to control the spread and does state the importance of mask wearing and contact tracing.  From the link:

In both examples, the benefit of face masks is immediately apparent, since the CET limit is enhanced by a factor p2mpm−2, the inverse square of the mask penetration factor. Standard surgical masks are characterized by pm=1to5pm=1to5% (73, 74), and so allow the CET to be extended by 400 to 10,000 times. Even cloth face coverings would extend the CET limit by 6 to 100 times for hybrid fabrics (pm=10to40%pm=10to40%) or 1.5 to 6 times for single-layer fabrics (pm=40to80%pm=40to80%) (75). Our inference of the efficacy of face masks in mitigating airborne transmission is roughly consistent with studies showing the benefits of mask use on COVID-19 transmission at the scales of both cities and countries (22, 33, 83)

 

And this from the link:

 

We proceed by considering the implications of our guideline for the implementation of quarantining and testing. While official quarantine guidelines emphasize the importance of isolating infected persons, our study makes clear the importance of isolating and clearing infected indoor air. In cases of home quarantine of an infected individual with healthy family members, our guideline provides specific recommendations for mitigating indoor airborne transmission. For a group sharing an indoor space intermittently, for example, office coworkers or classmates, regular testing should be done with a frequency that ensures that the CET between tests is less than the limit set by the guideline. Such testing would become unnecessary if the time limit set by the CET bound greatly exceeds the time taken for an infected person to be removed from the population. For the case of a symptomatic infected person, this removal time should correspond to the time taken for the onset of symptoms (∼5.5 d). To safeguard against asymptomatic individuals, one should use the recovery time (∼14 d) in place of the removal time.

 

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No respite in India as country sets Covid-19 infection record for third straight day

India reported 346,786 new cases of Covid-19 on Saturday -- the third day in a row the country has set a world record for infections during the coronavirus pandemic, according to government and scientific tallies.

The related death toll for the previous 24 hours hit 2,624 -- also a daily record for India -- for 189,544 total fatalities.
The sky-rocketing Covid-19 infections are devastating India's communities and hospitals. Everything is in short supply -- intensive care unit beds, medicine, oxygen and ventilators. Bodies are piling up in morgues and crematoriums.
 
 
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