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USA sends Covid-19 aid worth $100 million to India

The US has also redirected its own order of AstraZeneca manufacturing supplies to India, which will allow it to make over 20 million doses of vaccine

The US has dispatched its first batch of Covid-19 relief materials to India, including oxygen cylinders and regulators, Rapid Diagnostic Test kits and N95 masks. The US said the US would be sending supplies worth more than $100 million to India and "meet the urgent health needs of the Indian people".

https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/us-covid-19-aid-100-million-to-india-first-flight-oxygen-cylinders-1796114-2021-04-29

 

 

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14 minutes ago, CECAA850 said:

Lol.  I cant really reply to that one.

he forgets the poverty in India -

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32 minutes ago, RandyH000 said:

he forgets the poverty in India -

 

 

He is a lying, crooked, Idiot !!

 

Roger

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36 minutes ago, RandyH000 said:

he forgets the poverty in India -

A while back I commented that I thought it would get bad there from a combination of poverty, density of population and questionable sanitary conditions.   Im surprised it took this long to get this bad.

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9 hours ago, Sam S. said:

The original question was whether or not a wide range of differing expert or qualified opinions can contribute to the topics debatable around COVID (thinking broadly about this). Your response clarified that to mean only "top scientists" should be listened to and then you clarified that further (narrowly) to the CDC and WHO. It seems appropriate to include others with research and experience in virology, epidemiology, infectious diseases, evolutionary biology...should if they choose have a voice and as the original poster suggested, and participate in an honest debate about issues. We have nowhere near that. We have a handful of individuals who have constructed a series of narratives and anyone who disagrees or even questions that narrative is attacked and labeled as a nutjob. This further obscures the issues, contributes to vaccine skepticism, and distrust among the general population.

 

As for the WHO, this is part of it as the narrative pushed is that the lab leak hypothesis (I'm talking about lab leak, not a lab created then purposefully released) can't possibly be true. Many scientists have said that while they don't have direct evidence, they believe that a lab leak could explain a great deal about this virus. It should be noted that there is also no direct evidence of other narratives being pushed (e.g. wet markets, pangolins). There are many reasons for the lab leak theory. The most recent credibility issue with the WHO is that when they investigated these sorts of things, they weren't allowed to investigate anything on their own, but rather got information directly from the Chinese government, which concluded that it wasn't a lab leak (nothing to see here, folks). The WHO said "good enough", and didn't question it. There's good reason for them to lie or mislead about this (gov't). See NPR generally. The truth is at this time, we don't really know the origin. Finally, many certainly have an economic interest in the lab leak hypothesis to not be true. Those who've financially relied on gain of function research for grant and other funding. Evidence of a lab leak would certainly call that into question (because we sure as hell don't want this to ever happen again), and many that are vocal against any possibility of a lab leak stand to suffer financially if gain of function research is called into question. 

 

 

That was very well written, enjoyed the first paragraph.

 

This next part isn't directed at you, or anyone else, a general reminder.

 

For me to be able to keep this thread alive -  "no china."

 

It's about current news, science related to SARS-CoV-2, free of politics (that's the tricky part). Current is like now, not over a year ago.

 

If something is earth shattering, of major significance, and the origin or location is inextricably intertwined with the something current,  then post a new thread on it and we can see if it can last.

 

Somebody find the peer reviewed study last month, by an American university team of epidemiologists and evolutionary biologists, that had tracked it to a village 30 kilometers outside of Whuhan and what is right about it or wrong about it. Good start for a thread.

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10 minutes ago, CECAA850 said:

A while back I commented that I thought it would get bad there from a combination of poverty, density of population and questionable sanitary conditions.   Im surprised it took this long to get this bad.

Why has it taken this long? What are Mexico's numbers?

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36 minutes ago, dwilawyer said:

Why has it taken this long? What are Mexico's numbers?

Dunno

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Ball of Confusion....that's what the world is today....hey hey...And the Band played on !

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[No bare links. Need to advise what it's about, why it's relevant to this thread]

 

 

Self explanatory and should provoke thought. Who ever did this is a clown...

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10 hours ago, RandyH000 said:

here is a compilation of  adverse effects from Covid Vaccines , while the majority of the population suffer no ill effects from the Covid vaccines  there is a small percentage of people who do ---and the data is recorded by the CDC-  

 

if for any reason , one is allergic  to vaccines or drugs , they must report this to their physician  prior to getting a covid 19   vaccine  and seek medical advice -

 

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uS4krGJX-7sa8fuRlH7mhod-Xa5ZBsXU/view

 

It's a compilation of utter gibberish, lies and falsifications put together by anti-vaxxer activists.

 

"Deaths reported from Covid Vaccination on the first page was a clear indication of what this was because they are misstating the data. The only link between a Covid-19 vaccine and a death in the USA is the J&J vaccine. 

 

https://khn.org/news/article/anti-vaccine-activists-peddle-theories-that-covid-shots-are-deadly-undermining-vaccination/

 

"Anti-vaccine groups are exploiting the suffering and death of people who happen to fall ill after receiving a covid shot, threatening to undermine the largest vaccination campaign in U.S. history. In some cases, anti-vaccine activists are fabricating stories of deaths that never occurred. 

“This is exactly what anti-vaccine groups do,” said Dr. Peter Hotez, an infectious diseases specialist and author of “Preventing the Next Pandemic: Vaccine Diplomacy in a Time of Anti-Science.” 

 

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How ironic.  From the article:

 

"Now, the same groups are blaming patients’ coincidental medical problems on covid shots, even when it’s clear that age or underlying health conditions are to blame, Hotez said."

 

 

That's  the same things that some claimed was happening when deaths were attributed to the virus when people died that had underlying conditions.

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On 5/4/2021 at 9:27 AM, CECAA850 said:

My co-worker is about not that far from my desk.  i asked him what literature he received after his injection.  He said that he got the shot, had to wait 15 minutes than was allowed to leave.  On the way out he got a paper with the brand of shot he received and the date for the next injection.  That was it.

How did he register for it? On line? If so it was ALL there, he just didn't read it. I don't know how it works if you register in person. Did he opt in for V Safe?

 

Has anyone gotten it at a pharmacy? I would think the way they work they give you all of the information.

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8 minutes ago, CECAA850 said:

How ironic.  From the article:

 

"Now, the same groups are blaming patients’ coincidental medical problems on covid shots, even when it’s clear that age or underlying health conditions are to blame, Hotez said."

 

 

That's  the same things that some claimed was happening when deaths were attributed to the virus when people died that had underlying conditions.

It's different. The key difference is the coincidental death or medical issues after vaccination. It's coincidence - from an insidious disease or condition.   Reporting is required with all death following a vaccination, without regard to cause or manner. They are all investigated. 

 

They shut down J&J with five cases of blood clots and 1 death. Why would Moderna and/or Pfizer cause be allowed to continue being administered after causing 1,000 deaths, 500, 100? They wouldn't. 

 

The article in the pseudo-science article said there were three thousand something deaths that were from getting the vaccine. That's utter bullshit (that is outdated, over 4,000 deaths reported via VARES now). Those are the number of deaths following a vaccine by some amount of time, because by law they have to be reported regardless of cause. They all have to be investigated to determine if there is some sort of casual relationship or not. In the case of J&J, five cases, 1 death, shut the whole thing down.

 

People will just read the headlines and come away thinking, oh my gosh, 4,000 people have died from the vaccine. The article I linked was just one, of hundreds of examples, of the way people just make up bullshit for their own agendas.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 5/4/2021 at 9:48 AM, richieb said:


I mean - really? How many people actually READ consent forms, or terms of service etc. etc.etc.? These “consent” forms are drawn by teams of legal beagles obviously favoring that being consented to. Ain’t a one of us that has read word for word the Klipsch TOS for the forum we subscribe to. And everyone of us has broken one or two clauses in that form whether it was read or not. 

Yes, this is really, really tough and complicated. I would expect it would challenge most people and they would just say "forget it" just get it over with:

 

WHO SHOULD NOT GET THE MODERNA COVID-19 VACCINE?

 

You should NOT get the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine if you

: • had a severe allergic reaction after a previous dose of this vaccine • had a severe allergic reaction to any ingredient of this vaccine

 

WHAT IF I AM BELOW 18 YEARS OLD? In clinical trials, 15,400 individuals ages 18 and over received at least one dose of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine. Because the vaccine has not been studied in those under 18 years old, the CDC and FDA do not currently recommend anyone below 18 receiving the vaccine.

 

WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS IN THE MODERNA COVID-19 VACCINE? The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine contains the following ingredients: messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA), lipids (SM-102, polyethylene glycol [PEG] 2000 dimyristoyl glycerol [DMG], cholesterol, and 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine [DSPC]), tromethamine, tromethamine hydrochloride, acetic acid, sodium acetate, and sucrose.

 

If you answered “yes” to any of the Vaccine Screening Questions, you should speak with your health care provider before getting the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine. This includes if you:

• have any allergies

• have a fever

• have a bleeding disorder or are on a blood thinner

• are immunocompromised or are on a medicine that affects your immune system

• are pregnant or plan to become pregnant

• are breastfeeding

'• have received another COVID-19 vaccine

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Pfizer Seeks Full FDA Approval For COVID-19 Vaccine

Pfizer and its vaccine partner BioNTech have started an application to request the Food and Drug Administration's approval for its COVID-19 vaccine.

Pfizer is the first coronavirus vaccine maker in the U.S. to request full approval. Like Pfizer, the Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines had been previously cleared for use under the agency's emergency use authorization — a less rigorous approval method to aid a swifter response to the pandemic.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/05/07/994839927/pfizer-seeks-full-fda-approval-for-covid-19-vaccine

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Britain free of coronavirus by August, outgoing vaccine task force chief says -Telegraph

Patients are greeted by Abbey staff outside a vaccination centre at Westminster Abbey, amid the outbreak of coronavirus disease (COVID-19), in London, Britain, March 10, 2021. REUTERS/John Sibley/File Photo

The new coronavirus will no longer be circulating in Britain by August, the government’s departing vaccine taskforce chief Clive Dix told the Daily Telegraph on Friday.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britain-free-coronavirus-by-august-outgoing-vaccine-task-force-chief-says-2021-05-07/

 

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Beyond India, a growing number of Asian countries are being ravaged by fresh coronavirus waves

new waves of infections are fast engulfing a growing number of nations across South and Southeast Asia -- with some grappling with their worst outbreaks since the pandemic began.

The World Health Organization (WHO) said on Wednesday that India had accounted for nearly half of all global infections and a quarter of deaths reported in the past week.
But cases have also skyrocketed in countries around India, from Nepal in the north to Sri Lanka and the Maldives in the south. And it's not just India's neighbors -- further away in Southeast Asia, infections are also surging in Thailand, Cambodia and Indonesia.

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7 hours ago, dwilawyer said:

How did he register for it? On line? If so it was ALL there, he just didn't read it. I don't know how it works if you register in person. Did he opt in for V Safe?

 

He registered by phone.

 

How could he opt for something he never heard of?

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