Coytee Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Long story short, I accidentally whacked my dish and it wobbled... now I'm having issues pulling in HD channels. SD seem to come in ok..... Isn't there a beeper that plays where I can try to self align or do I need a service call? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, Coytee said: Long story short, I accidentally whacked my dish and it wobbled... now I'm having issues pulling in HD channels. SD seem to come in ok..... Isn't there a beeper that plays where I can try to self align or do I need a service call? There should be a signal that turn solid. On both dish/ direct. Probably just the pole moved slightly. Torpedo level 90 degrees apart should help relevel. Take it is a pole mount. Otherwise if bumped just reflector, you will need a 7/16 wrench typically. You want to shoot for a 100 signal although 95 is decent enough usually for cloud/rain. BTW, watch out for wasps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 I've found the signal meters (I SPECIFICALLY asked the dufas about this not once, but TWICE.... first he says they have it, then changed answer... ) Anyway, seems there are different transponders. I'm not sure what is what yet buy the primary (default) transponder is in the mid 90's which is good. The second one is like 24. Fortunately, I've got a TV in the bedroom so can hear it through window (I think) I was on a bucket lift doing some stuff to outside of house. Dish is probably 25 feet off the ground. The stupid lift caught the corner because of how it flexed and gave the dish a smack upside the head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 Hmmm.... question.... If the 2nd transponder is my issue, would it follow that if I can pull it in at say, 90 and it fixes my HD signal, that the SD signal should also be good OR, is there a dual aim and you have to find a sweet spot for both? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Sargent Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Things have gotten a little more complicated over time. You need to align the dish to probably 3 satellites. I highly doubt you can get all of them to 90+ percent. A slight rotation of the dish left or right might get you back to talking to the different satellites. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Sargent Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 There are several transponders on each satellite. For DISH I have to talk to Satellites at 110 Deg. 119 Deg. and 129 Deg. Yours will be different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Yes it happens. Carefully and without hurting self. have another if there or look at the screen and if mount still tight, without loosening dish bolts, flex theflimsy like dish paying attention to the low reading on other satellite. This will let you know if needs adjusting very slightly using the bolts slightly loosened, in case the best signal is side to side. You should mark j mount with marker for any other up and down tweak as well, so as to refind sat if lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 Eating lunch.... planning on going out shortly to give it a whirl. It's not far off.... just far enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 The elevation and longitude or azimuth changes slightly due to your physical location on the dish itself. The 119 for instance is location of say itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Sargent Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Looks like your SD channels are located at 101 deg and 21 HD channels are 99 deg. for DirecTV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Would look at the rear adjustment bolts for any movement usually indicated by scarring of paint against the mount by bolt movement. Yes, you are not off by much at all. If you moved the dish and did not hit the feedhorn, a quick fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 Well.... I'm willing to suspect that I hit the LNB (if that's what you're calling the feed horn) I don't think I hit the dish itself. I was up at the peak of the house on the bucket-lift so it was extended. I was rotating it as slow as I could towards the house (and a window) so was trying to be careful however, because of the bounce in the now extended long arm, it gave me a bit of a whip over..... slapped the dish, then settled back to where I wanted it. Oops. These things can be very springy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 If you find the beep, it may start as a solid signal that sounds higher as signal goes up. When you select the low channel that is low, it may just beep until goes higher. Keep it simple and if you peak one, the rest of sat will follow unless... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Look at the lnb arm then and at the rivets where it is attached.Gently flex the arm from underneath for any loose wobble while conducting your sat search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 If the arm is tight, check for slight movement of the lnb itself on the arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 May have tweaked the base. Download that alignment app. It uses your phone for all the readings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 You know we used to have the same problem with rabbit ears. JJK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 The fact that you are still on the one and shows that may be just a very slight lovetap. Unless you happened to look at the screen shot of the menu search screen at the time and wrote down the 95 and other sat reading at installation or since, no way of knowing if have been suffering from nonpeaked signal. Pixelization and slight rain or cloud would give that indication. Of course, clear line of sight helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 Took another ride up, had to move the base. Meter was on about 23 when I started. I grabbed dish a bit and gently twisted to right and signal shot up to mid 90's. Put a slight push on it in that direction....let it settle down. So far, everything seems to be working fine including HD channels. Looking like the collective brain power willed it to happen! Everyone can go enjoy their favorite 15 minutes of Maris Osmond while downing a diet 'Ensure' to maintain a balanced daily diet and good movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 I charge $1.00 per ride....any takers? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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