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2 minutes ago, Fido said:

I have played tidal mqa files and side by side cd quality files and I can’t hear the difference.  Therefore I didn’t require an mqa enabled DAC when I was DAC shopping.

 

You have a Pontus, right? I ended up selling my Ares II to a forum member after being so impressed that I bought the Venus II. Do you hear differences between NOS and OS? I can't really explain why but I seem to like NOS over time. If I A/B them I can't tell much difference on the fly.

 

Also does your Pontus have a Phase button? Manual says led on is "Positive Phase" and LED off is "Negative Phase". I've always heard of phase referred to as 0 degrees and 180 degrees. Which do you use/like? Id assume Positive Phase = 0 degrees and Negative Phase = 180. I think I get a slightly more centered image with the LED off, so that has me scratching my head.

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1 hour ago, Tarheel said:

Go back to my original post.  MQA was never mentioned and was not the subject of my inquiry.  I was discussing why actual CDs played on a tubed Jolida JD100 sound more sonically pleasing (to me) than streamed CD quality Tidal (or Spotify) offerings.  Each is going through a separate DAC which may explain some of the difference though I doubt that is the only reason. One source is wireless though other posters have said that is not likely the problem.  Again, both play through the same speakers and integrated amp.

 

As to your 2 camps I guess I fit better in camp 1 but certainly have an open mind if someone can convince me that I'm wasting money choosing Tidal Premium and their MQA offerings.  But streaming is just one way I listen to music. I listen to vinyl and CDs for more critical listening and even admit to liking CD compilations recorded on my R2R! 

Old ears you know.😉

 

 

 

 

Perhaps someone with experience doing that will contribute. 

I have experience with the old ears portion, the rest is not in my scope of expertise.

How's that for not contributing?

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24 minutes ago, rplace said:

 

You have a Pontus, right? I ended up selling my Ares II to a forum member after being so impressed that I bought the Venus II. Do you hear differences between NOS and OS? I can't really explain why but I seem to like NOS over time. If I A/B them I can't tell much difference on the fly.

 

Also does your Pontus have a Phase button? Manual says led on is "Positive Phase" and LED off is "Negative Phase". I've always heard of phase referred to as 0 degrees and 180 degrees. Which do you use/like? Id assume Positive Phase = 0 degrees and Negative Phase = 180. I think I get a slightly more centered image with the LED off, so that has me scratching my head.

I can’t really hear a big difference between NOS and OS and also don’t hear much of a difference between phase on or off but perhaps the positive phase setting presents a deeper soundstage - it’s very subtle. All I know for me is that the Pontus sounds much more analogue than other dacs I have heard. Far less sheen and electronic sounding glare.

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4 hours ago, Shiva said:

A very cool looking and impressive streamer. 

 

 

I think someone on the forum was looking to add one of these in a new home with Cornwall IV. Too lazy to look so not sure if he has any ear time yet.

 

On another note, after sending my small-ish active speakers back and settling on a pair of passives. I'm on the hunt for a single box solution as space is at a premium in my office. Almost universal praise and I'm 95% I'll have one by the end of the week. Almost sounds too good to be true.

 

https://lyngdorf.steinwaylyngdorf.com/lyngdorf-tdai-1120/

 

Initially I was concerned about the output but most seem to indicate no lack of power for a range of speakers. Talk about a minimal signal path....just add speakers.

 

@Fido I'm not sure about amazon support but it seems to do everything under the sun. For what you were thinking of the Lumin U1 you could sell the PL amp and possibly be ahead of the sound game and net money in your pocket. I'm very excited to give this a go.

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On 8/4/2021 at 11:54 AM, rplace said:

 

I think someone on the forum was looking to add one of these in a new home with Cornwall IV. Too lazy to look so not sure if he has any ear time yet.

 

On another note, after sending my small-ish active speakers back and settling on a pair of passives. I'm on the hunt for a single box solution as space is at a premium in my office. Almost universal praise and I'm 95% I'll have one by the end of the week. Almost sounds too good to be true.

 

https://lyngdorf.steinwaylyngdorf.com/lyngdorf-tdai-1120/

 

Initially I was concerned about the output but most seem to indicate no lack of power for a range of speakers. Talk about a minimal signal path....just add speakers.

 

@Fido I'm not sure about amazon support but it seems to do everything under the sun. For what you were thinking of the Lumin U1 you could sell the PL amp and possibly be ahead of the sound game and net money in your pocket. I'm very excited to give this a go.

The Lyndorf  1120 looks very cool but does not support Amazon Music. I’m happy with my system as is and my Node 2i is no longer creating static now that I removed my Pontus from my system. My PL isn’t going anywhere. I need to figure out why the Pontus is creating static and some intermittent distortion. I am very Confident that Alvin Chee from Vinshine will get it sorted out with me. When the Pontus sounds right it is more analog  sounding than any digital source I have ever heard.

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So the Lyngdorf and lure of Room Perfect got the better of me. I've always been a separates guy but I must say this all in one box is pretty impressive. I'm sure part of it is new gear syndrome but right off the bat this thing impresses. Nice build quality, super easy set up, very good detail, separation of instruments and incredible imaging. All that more impressive when you consider I have two 24" monitors sitting between me and the speakers. The integration with Roon is flawless. The easiest I've ever seen. I bet is was less than a minute after power up that I was listening to my library of FLAC files.

 

With all it features its a bit overkill for my office. I think it would really shine in a common space where music and TV were split and you wanted something less than a frat-house look. HT pass through, dual sub outs, HDMI eARC.

 

This is the kind of impact I was looking for from my KEF active experiment. To say I'm happy with the decision would be an understatement. Hopefully it stays that way and is not just another shiny object (look a squirrel 😁 ). 

 

I've been focused on sound, not looks. So, sorry for the mess. Eventually I will get the room sorted beyond just the music end of things.

 

BTW its the small black box below the main monitor's lower left side.

 

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So, I think I'm switching to Plex/Plexamp for my music playback. There is nothing wrong with Roon and it's the superior product right now, but I just can't keep justifying the cost. I don't use Tidal or Qobuz and I handle all of my music tagging/metadata through Beets, so it's an absolute premium for a pretty UI and playback of my own music files.

 

I looked at plexamp when it was first released and was unimpressed. It has certainly evolved over the last couple of years, enough that I feel comfortable using it instead at least. It's still lacking in the couch experience as it relates to controlling a running plexamp instance on a dedicated PC using an iOS device, but that's on the roadmap to improve. Casting to an Airplay or Chromecast device is supported, however, if I can't be bothered to get up and change the music like the old days.

 

I already pay for a Plex pass and use it exclusively for movies and much of my TV content, so it makes sense to just extend that to music as well. It's about 75-80% of what Roon offers, but it's also not $700 or more for simply existing on my network.

 

Just an FYI for those out there looking to find something between foobar and Roon.

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4 minutes ago, Schu said:

no one uses jRiver any more?

 

I do. An old computer running JRiver is the way to organize and play digital files as well as stream music. Super cheap, and it leaves you with more $ to spend on the dac where it really matters.

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