paulgyro Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Owner claims to be the original having purchased in 1980. Asking $575. Pictures attached. Thoughts? I have yet to see or hear them in person, just trying to get all the info I can before I proceed. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 If I were to read the serial # correctly those would be 1984 20th week. Here is the link on how to figure this out, there is also a lot more info in there too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 To me they seem a little rough cosmetically for that price. I'm sure they sound great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I paid $350 for similar condition 1981 Heresys less than two years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 woofers look in perfect shape , these speakers dont have a lot of mileage --------- only hic is the black paint , these would look much nicer in raw birch finish - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 $325 max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I have Heresy that I would let go for that price, and they're not painted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Depending on what part of the county you are in that may be an OK price. But in general as others have posted they are a bit rough for that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panelhead Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 If they sound good and all drivers are working offer 350.00. Split the difference. I would shoot semi-gloss grey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlthess40 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 They had been poorly painted black at some time. I would not pay more the 375 here in Florida Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I would pay $450.00 to $475.00, cabinet in pretty good shape. Easy to repaint or sand back to raw birch. Bill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter P. Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 2 hours ago, willland said: I would pay $450.00 to $475.00, cabinet in pretty good shape. Easy to repaint or sand back to raw birch. Bill This is my opinion too. Since they're birch plywood you don't have to worry about veneer damage that's more involved to repair. These can easily be sanded and refinished with even the most basic of skills, and you'll get great advice on this forum on how to do it. I also agree with willland's pricing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I agree with Seadog. Based on Dave's May 2020 spreadsheet, the average prices of "CDF" condition Heresies is $327. (There are 21 instances mentioned of Heresies in this condition and type in his spreadsheet.) Those in condition "AB" have an average price of $391. I've found that Heresies of this vintage typically have a very narrow band of actual selling prices. I have a similar black pair (apparently rescued from a Showbiz pizza palace that reportedly used lots of Heresies during that time period). I paid $400 for my 1979-pair in 2008, when the prices were high, just before the Great Recession started to take hold on the used loudspeaker marketplace. Most of the variation in prices is the condition of the box itself instead of the drivers and crossovers, which is something that I find very odd since a new box can easily be fabricated to replace the original for less raw material cost than the prices of drivers in poor condition. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahaSHO Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 They look to be in good enough condition to refinish, which is what I was looking for when I bought a set of 1982 Heresy's last year. I paid $375 and the drivers were in great condition and the capacitors had already been replaced. Mine had never been finished with anything on the wood, so when I went to refinish them, I didn't have to deal with trying to get any of that off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgyro Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 Thanks for all the amazing feedback! So in the end the asking price is about $150 too high. I would certainly like to remove the black paint if I picked them up. On a related note I keep asking myself why I want these. The vintage Klipsch look for sure and owning history. How do they sound compared to the modern Reference Premier line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 With a bit of patience and effort, I'm sure you can find a very nice pair for between 400-500 that you won't have to put so much time and energy into refinishing the cabinets. Pricing on heritage models is highly dependent on cosmetics, functionality and location. Prices on most models has increased quite a bit in the last 6 months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgyro Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, yamahaSHO said: They look to be in good enough condition to refinish, which is what I was looking for when I bought a set of 1982 Heresy's last year. I paid $375 and the drivers were in great condition and the capacitors had already been replaced. Mine had never been finished with anything on the wood, so when I went to refinish them, I didn't have to deal with trying to get any of that off. Wow these look amazing! Edited November 19, 2020 by paulgyro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Offer $300 and see what happens. They look worth refinishing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter P. Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 18 hours ago, paulgyro said: On a related note I keep asking myself why I want these. The vintage Klipsch look for sure and owning history. How do they sound compared to the modern Reference Premier line? Yes; there is the allure of owning a "piece of history". That's what attracted me to Heresy's. They are truly a classic. But I don't think they match the Reference Premier line only in that they don't play as low. Even the lowest price RP-5000F plays louder and lower than vintage Heresy's, and they cost marginally more per pair than those used Heresy's. But the RF series are larger than the Heresy's so you'll have to weigh the aesthetic impact on your room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgyro Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Peter P. said: Yes; there is the allure of owning a "piece of history". That's what attracted me to Heresy's. They are truly a classic. But I don't think they match the Reference Premier line only in that they don't play as low. Even the lowest price RP-5000F plays louder and lower than vintage Heresy's, and they cost marginally more per pair than those used Heresy's. But the RF series are larger than the Heresy's so you'll have to weigh the aesthetic impact on your room. Well lower and louder doesn't matter to me. I'm more wondering about the aspect of their sound quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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