Mauro Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Hi guys: I wondered if you could offer a little advice. I'm looking for a great sound system for a restaurant and a little research brought me here. Everything i've read and seen about Klipsch so far seems perfect. Now, a couple of technical questions: In your opinion, could the RP-600Ms be used in a commercial setting? The restaurant will have a capacity of around 80 covers, with a rough floor surface of 1,000 sq. ft. I'm thinking that 3 pairs, mounted on the walls next to the ceiling and tilted towards the floor should do the trick nicely? What do you guys reckon? My second question is- the design of the restaurant will be quite retro inspired (50s/ 60s) and aesthetically, the Fives would look amazing with their grey grilles and wood finishes. Now, same as above- can these be used in a restaurant setting? Are the two control knobs (source and volume) not an issue when used as part of a larger circuit? Finally, i was thinking of pairing these with some type of Denon Pro mixer/ amp- any good recommendations here? Thank you all in advance! M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Have you looked into the Heresy's? They are common in commercial settings and would fit into your retro theme nicely. There are some pros here, maybe they will chime in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmalloy Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 8 hours ago, Alexander said: Have you looked into the Heresy's? They are common in commercial settings and would fit into your retro theme nicely. There are some pros here, maybe they will chime in. I think Heresys would be perfect, especially since your restaurant is retro-inspired - The Heresy was first produced in 1957 and the box design hasn't changed much since then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Welcome Mauro, good luck with your new adventure. I'm sure three pairs of RP600m would work fine, the Heresies would excel but considerably more money. The Heresy is very popular in restaurants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted January 27, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 27, 2021 Here is link to Heresy in Chipotle, there are other examples also. https://www.klipsch.com/blog/klipsch-install-stories-chipotle-adds-heresy-iii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Maybe used Heresy 1s? Depending on your location you should be able to pickup a few decent pairs for around the $500/pr range with a bit of patience. IMO from a performance stand point the Heresy will walk all over the other two that you listed. But looking at your first choices I wonder if size might be a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Another vote for Heresy's here. Stay away from the 5 or anything self powered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauro Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 Thank you so much for your help guys! Looks like the Heresy's are the ones! I better go and tweak my budget then haha- and work on that playlist- the last thing i want is playing s#!+ music through those sexy sounding speakers cos that, my friends, would be the true heresy here Thanks again! M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted January 27, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 27, 2021 Just now, Mauro said: Thank you so much for your help guys! Looks like the Heresy's are the ones! I better go and tweak my budget then haha- and work on that playlist- the last thing i want is playing s#!+ music through those sexy sounding speakers cos that, my friends, would be the true heresy here Thanks again! M You have excellent taste, this is a big thing now. Where abouts will the resturant be? Glad your timing is now, and hope you haven't been delayed. I will see if I can find some more resturant photos and articles. @bhendrix has just designed a system for a friend of his who has done a beer garden, our other friend has some big ones outdoors at a seasonal restaurant in Colorado, you have lots of options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted January 27, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 27, 2021 @Mauro may not be able to receive PMs yet, they put in a 5 Posts requirement (at request of Moderators) to stamp down the rampant spam/fraud posts happening all over forums everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauro Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 27 minutes ago, dwilawyer said: You have excellent taste, this is a big thing now. Where abouts will the resturant be? Glad your timing is now, and hope you haven't been delayed. I will see if I can find some more resturant photos and articles. @bhendrix has just designed a system for a friend of his who has done a beer garden, our other friend has some big ones outdoors at a seasonal restaurant in Colorado, you have lots of options. Thank you so much for the help! The restaurant will be in London, England, so i was originally looking at a guy here in Birmingham who makes incredible speakers called Living Voice- a little out of my budget for now hehe. The used Heresy's might be just the thing- if i find enough of them here in the UK- as it'll even add lots of authenticity to the whole interior design with the wear & tear. Thanks again guys! I'll let you know when i'm up and running, who knows you may be in this neck of the woods one day and feeling like a good drink hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mauro said: Thank you so much for the help! The restaurant will be in London, England, so i was originally looking at a guy here in Birmingham who makes incredible speakers called Living Voice- a little out of my budget for now hehe. The used Heresy's might be just the thing- if i find enough of them here in the UK- as it'll even add lots of authenticity to the whole interior design with the wear & tear. Thanks again guys! I'll let you know when i'm up and running, who knows you may be in this neck of the woods one day and feeling like a good drink hehe. What's the shape of the area you want sound in? You might get by with 4 speakers in that size of an area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted January 27, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 27, 2021 42 minutes ago, Mauro said: Thank you so much for the help! The restaurant will be in London, England, so i was originally looking at a guy here in Birmingham who makes incredible speakers called Living Voice- a little out of my budget for now hehe. You are in good company there. Look up Classic Album Sundays. https://classicalbumsundays.com/klipsch-audio-presents-classic-album-sundays-at-bestival/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauro Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 Thank you all so much! Let's hope this is the year! All the best @dwilawyer awesome link!! Album of the month is Tear for Fears' 'Songs from the Big Chair'- about to check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 50 minutes ago, Mauro said: Thank you all so much! Let's hope this is the year! All the best @dwilawyer awesome link!! Album of the month is Tear for Fears' 'Songs from the Big Chair'- about to check it out! Used is a great way to go when you're looking to get the best bang for your musical buck. 4 Heresy's in a space that size could be loud enough to make talking difficult so at background levels they'll be loafing along. A subwoofer or two in the corners would take the listening experience to the next level. They can easily be hidden or disguised as to not bring attention to themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter P. Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Three pairs of speakers-a regular amp with just A and B pairs available won't quite cut it. I think you're going to have to use a PA amp such as from Bogen to run a number of speakers through matching 25V or 70V transformers, and perhaps individual volume controls. Also, you'll want to spread out the sound evenly among the area. More speakers will mean you won't have to turn up the volume at Speaker X so it will reach diners farther away, while diners closer to the speakers might be overwhelmed by the sound. Remember, they want to carry on a conversation without competing with the music. The diners aren't really going to care about the quality of the sound, although I get the idea of wanting the speakers to "look cool" and follow the aesthetic of the restaurant. If the restaurant has a dropped ceiling, I recommend some A/V, ceiling tile mounted speakers. Bogen has a system design manual which will give you ideas on to populate the restaurant with speakers for good sound. As I said above, you can run 8 ohm speakers with such a Bogen amp using matching transformers with or without volume controls, and you could still use Klipsch speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 In a 1000 sq ft (y'all still use sq ft?) you should only need 2 or 3 Heresies. In such a random environment, stereo will not be useful. Imagine each speaker is a flood light and "light" the space as evenly as reasonable. A local Chattanooga restaurant with a retro flavour has vintage audio gear behind the bar, including an open reel deck with 10.5" reels turning. Enthralled, I went to look. There was no tape and no signal in the VU meters. I was disappointed, but the look was perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wuzzzer Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 minute ago, CobeFelon said: You can analyze other companies worldwide that are doing what you are doing. Why are you replying to yourself?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 2:54 PM, Mauro said: Hi guys: I wondered if you could offer a little advice Mauro ,Speakers in a restaurant are usually small round full range speakers installed in the ceilings ( false ceilings ) versus boxes or speakers that sound very good in 1 spot , and that get less louder as you are further away --ceiling speakers sound evenly around the square footage ,and the sound does not change as you walk in the Restaurant , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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