CLUBSTA Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Hello everyone, Im looking into buying Klipsch speakers for my room, the dimensions are 27ft across the long wall and 16ft across the short wall with 7ft ceilings. Ive narrowed my choices to Klipschorn AK6, La Scala AL5 or Cornwall IV. Any suggestions as to which speakers would be the best fit in a room this large? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 hours ago, CLUBSTA said: Any suggestions as to which speakers would be the best fit in a room this large? Any of the three that you mentioned. With such a low ceiling (7'), I'd recommend the Cornwall IV due to its midrange horn not experiencing "pattern flip" (a.k.a., "collapsing polars" midrange horn) that the La Scala II and the Khorn experience below 2 kHz. If you might consider the best sound quality--I recommend horn-loaded bass, coupled with a K-402 horn on top, and avoid the K-401 midrange horn in the Khorn and the La Scala II. A Klipsch Jubilee (the present two-way version using DSP crossover) would be the best sound quality--by far. You can talk to Cory at Paducah Home Theater and speak to him to find out the particulars. After this summer, the price of Jubilees takes a massive jump upward from about the Khorn price, to $35K/pair: Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I had Jubilees in room that was 11 wide by 27 deep and 7.5 high. So I had the same ceiling "problem". The Jubilees sounded great. What part of the country are you in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLUBSTA Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 Thanks, I’m located in NYC. The Jubilees look magnificent but I can’t afford speakers that cost $35k. I’m stretching the budget at $15k if I buy Klipschorns now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 If you look at the link I posted above, the current Jubilee isn't $35K, which was my point. You have an opportunity now to avoid that cost and come in right at $15K... But if you're not interested in the Jubilee, then I'd recommend either the Cornwall IV or perhaps even a JubScala (DIY) for a lot less than $15K using existing La Scala bass bins and K-402-HF assemblies (a DIY alternative to a La Scala II, but not having any issues with midrange horn pattern flip): The above with a K-402, and the following with a K-510 horn (not quite as good sound quality, but very good still): All three configurations require DSP crossovers, bi-amping the bass bin separate from the HF horn/driver. Low ceilings and pattern-flip midrange horns don't mix very well, in my experience. I don't recommend the Khorn or the La Scala II with a 7' ceiling, unless you're into a lot of acoustic treatments to mitigate the ceiling (and floor) bounce. Chris 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyrc Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 But If you buy the current model Jubilees NOW, right away, before the price goes up, they cost about what Klipschorns would. Call Cory at Paducah Home Theater -- 270-556-8427 -- to see what is possible right away. This may be the audio opportunity of a lifetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLUBSTA Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 Thanks everyone but the WAF is not looking too good for the Jubilees. It looks like the Cornwall IV might be my best option due to the low ceiling. Any other options please let me know, I appreciate it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 A highly desirable speaker the Cornwall 4... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 36 minutes ago, CLUBSTA said: Thanks everyone but the WAF is not looking too good for the Jubilees. It looks like the Cornwall IV might be my best option due to the low ceiling. Any other options please let me know, I appreciate it. Before you say "no", have a look at some of the strategies folks have adopted to dress the Jubilees up a bit. See what Kudret, Rigma, etc (myself included) did to make them less industrial looking. The footprint is the same as a Klipschorn and can be tucked into a corner (believe me your wife will barely notice them ....). They really do sound that good. In fact there is (or was?) a used pair for sale by Arron?? in Connecticut at an attractive price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLUBSTA Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 I’ll reach out to him since he is local to me. Does anyone have his contact number? I’d like to check these out in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLUBSTA Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 Spoke to Aaron, he's decided to keep his speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, CLUBSTA said: Spoke to Aaron, he's decided to keep his speakers. That is what usually happens. It is a good way to prevent seller's remorse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLUBSTA Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 Yes, brand new Jubilees are now $9,000 from Cory. I don’t blame anyone for wanting to hold on to their speakers, prices have really gone up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypilot_one Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 The Jubilees look a little like Belle's on steroids. PrestonTom, I'm located in Gales Ferry. Can't PM you however I'd like to opportunity to speak, get your opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, skypilot_one said: The Jubilees look a little like Belle's on steroids. PrestonTom, I'm located in Gales Ferry. Can't PM you however I'd like to opportunity to speak, get your opinions. Yes, I am nearby in Preston. I can contact you the middle of next week. Go ahead and have a look at how I and others have dressed up their Jubilees. With a bit of imagination, you might be able to fit them into your own living room. BTW, a few more posts and you will be able to PM (it is an anti-spam technique) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypilot_one Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 That sounds good. I remember speaking to Paul, a long time ago, somewhere between 1992-1995. He sent me his white papers and a little pocket knife. I had mentioned adding bass reflex to the Klipschorn and Lascala back then. He wasn't having it . With the more simple folded horn of the Jubilee I would think there would be less distortion and delay than a K-horn. It's interesting that the bass reflex tuned ports are entering into the horn bell, if I'm viewing the animation properly. I would have thought you'd get some cancellation, unless the bass produced by the ports is below the horn cutoff. I like the design, reminds me of concert level folded horns from the 30's and 70's, but with the addition of the bass reflex and DSP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypilot_one Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) Have they changed the design of the Jubilee base horn? I have seen a version drawn with a longer horn extending into the portion that's now being shown as the reflex volume. Also, the new design is showing one woofer whereas the older design has two. Edited April 3, 2021 by skypilot_one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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