babadono Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 hour ago, billybob said: We have a democracy now. No need to reply. Thanks! ? Nope. On September 17, 1787, delegates left the Constitutional Convention in Independence Hall in Philadelphia. As they exited, Benjamin Franklin was asked what kind of government do we have? "A Republic," he replied, "if you can keep it." To be more precise a Constitutional Republic. Peace. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry4841 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Zen Traveler said: I absolutely have a perspective, but it's based more in logic and reason than politics. You are missing good old common sense and your logic and reason leans more to politics. I also know which news organizations you depend on, since you did not mention them, you take as gospel as well. I have read the the letters you quote and disagree with what you take as fact. You will find doctors that disagree on the cure of any illness. Lawyers get in court and disagree with the facts viciously. It all depends on which side you are on on how you view the facts. I vehemently disagree with your opinion on what is the truth and fact. Nothing personal but just as our country is very divided right now you are on one side and I am on the other. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 46 minutes ago, henry4841 said: You are missing good old common sense and your logic and reason leans more to politics. I also know which news organizations you depend on, since you did not mention them, you take as gospel as well. I have read the the letters you quote and disagree with what you take as fact. You will find doctors that disagree on the cure of any illness. Lawyers get in court and disagree with the facts viciously. It all depends on which side you are on on how you view the facts. I vehemently disagree with your opinion on what is the truth and fact. Nothing personal but just as our country is very divided right now you are on one side and I am on the other. Well....I won't comment on your clairvoyant speculation and feel free to vehemently disagree on what you think you understand...Regardless, it's OT for this thread and forum while I've engaged on the topic at hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry4841 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 I have no more time to waste debating with Zen's saying I have clairvoyant speculation. He does not want to hear what I think of his resorting to name calling like a teenager saying whatever. Very childish that can turn vicious name calling I like to think I am above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezin' Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Actually it's a federalist republic with democratically elected leaders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, henry4841 said: I have no more time to waste debating with Zen's saying I have clairvoyant speculation. He does not want to hear what I think of his resorting to name calling like a teenager saying whatever. Very childish that can turn vicious name calling I like to think I am above. I've done none of what you claim and never resort to name calling. Cut-n-paste where you think I have or report my post to a moderator. I also have no desire to pursue this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted July 21, 2021 Moderators Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 8:04 AM, tube fanatic said: Find me an internist or a gp who knows about this and I will stand corrected. All whom I know were grateful that I mentioned this. There can be no discussion as Travis made it clear that discussions about the vaccine are forbidden. Maynard Actually posting anything about Coviid or the vaccines iii is off limits,. It appeared to be, (from the first sentence) more of an anti-vaccination commentary, so it wasn't much of a PSA, and I was just going to delete it, butt then I read the "Cliniicall Significance" portion and that did have some good PSA potential. Get vaccinated before coronea transplant surgery, if you have it planned. If you have had cornea transplants in the past don't let that stop you from getting vaccinated. As always, consult your medical professional regarding implants, vaccines, and a anything else that requires an MD as opposed to a Journal article, based on two cases (temporal relationship), from England, linked in an audio/ speaker Forum. However, if your opthalmologist has a good recommendation for a good 12AX7, please share. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted July 21, 2021 Moderators Share Posted July 21, 2021 17 hours ago, geezin' said: There are an estimated 80,000 corneal transplants yearly worldwide. From 191 million cases of Covid-19 4.1 million deaths have occurred. Do the math regardless of truth to the above posted. No politics simply numbers. The truth of the above posted link was that if you were planning the surgery you should get vaccinated before surgery rather than after, and if you have already had the surgery you shouldn't avoid getting vaccinated, both cases were easily treated. In addition, your numbers make the point that unless a physician is telling them not to get vaccinated, they should be making that call with their specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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