Chiliarches Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Hello all. Due to my room layout and other logistical concerns, I likely need about 20' interconnects (single ended) between my preamp and my amps. I know there can be negative impacts on the sound with interconnect runs this length...what cables would you recommend? In the past, I have used BJC subwoofer interconnects. Is there a better (but also affordable) option? Is there some other solution I am missing? Also, for reasons of avoiding ground loop hum, I need equally long (~20') power cables for my amps to plug into the same power conditioner the rest of my gear is plugged into...any suggestions there? I presume shielding would be important, what else? Thank you for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Good products at fair prices and excellent customer service. https://www.morrowaudio.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Given good quality low capacitance cable the only factor that matters in unbalanced cables is the resistance of the shield. The lower the resistance the better. I would think these made with dual shielded RG6 would be low shield resistance https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=38085 These cables are somewhat stiff. If you need super flexible don't go with these. That said 20' unbalanced cables are asking for trouble IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast996 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I use these....can't be beat IMHO 20 ft is the accepted limit but these are made of quad mic cable so that's not the case. Extremely flexible and great quality connectors/ I use Gotham Quad and Gepco....great cable with minimal coloration. and they are CHEAP in price. https://www.amazon.com/Foot-RCA-Cable-Pair-Interconnect/dp/B08SJ1TY9C/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=worlds+best+cables+rca+20+foot&qid=1627062838&s=electronics&sr=1-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, Fast996 said: I use these....can't be beat IMHO https://www.amazon.com/Foot-RCA-Cable-Pair-Interconnect/dp/B08SJ1TY9C/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=worlds+best+cables+rca+20+foot&qid=1627062838&s=electronics&sr=1-4 Bold assertion......🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast996 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 See if you can find a good quality hospital grade power cord....probably in 12 awg https://www.americord.com/hospital-power-cord/nema-5-15p-hospital-to-nema-5-15r.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast996 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, Shakeydeal said: Bold assertion......🤨 Not really....this is the cable they use to make all the recording people listen to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Fast996 said: Not really....this is the cable they use to make all the recording people listen to. Doesn't matter. Every cable will sound different in every system. Cables will sound different depending on what they are connected to. There are too many variables to proclaim one cable "best" for every application. I'm glad you found what works for you. I like my cable selections as well, but won't fool myself into thinking there isn't something better out there, cause there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 41 minutes ago, Fast996 said: I use these....can't be beat IMHO 20 ft is the accepted limit but these are made of quad mic cable so that's not the case. Extremely flexible and great quality connectors/ I use Gotham Quad and Gepco....great cable with minimal coloration. and they are CHEAP in price. https://www.amazon.com/Foot-RCA-Cable-Pair-Interconnect/dp/B08SJ1TY9C/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=worlds+best+cables+rca+20+foot&qid=1627062838&s=electronics&sr=1-4 Looks to be very high quality...but I would still tie the shields at both ends to give the lowest possible resistance of the "ground" connections. I would at least try it with the shield tied at both ends. See if detracts from the perceived signal. I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast996 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 40 minutes ago, Shakeydeal said: Doesn't matter. Every cable will sound different in every system. Cables will sound different depending on what they are connected to. There are too many variables to proclaim one cable "best" for every application. I'm glad you found what works for you. I like my cable selections as well, but won't fool myself into thinking there isn't something better out there, cause there is. I got off the audiophile cable wagon a long time ago. Back in 1990 I purchased cables from Walter Fields of NBS. I found out about shielded cable induced noise (SCIN) and all cables depending on how they are constructed will either add detract or be neutral somewhat. I use these with my NBS and they work well.and stand alone also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 57 minutes ago, Fast996 said: Not really....this is the cable they use to make all the recording people listen to. They use unbalanced cables to make ALL the recordings people listen to? Whaddayatalkinbout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast996 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I'm talking about the brand and partially about the construction. Belden purchased Gepco. There is Mogami and Gottham. All pro cables are terminated in balanced configurations. Home audio are unbalanced and balanced. We both know that..don't we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, Fast996 said: I'm talking about the brand and partially about the construction. Belden purchased Gepco. There is Mogami and Gottham. All pro cables are terminated in balanced configurations. Home audio are unbalanced and balanced. We both know that..don't we. Ok I'll give you that but does @Chiliarches ? Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast996 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 This is probably a Ching Cheng green dot hospital grade cable in 14awg. I use them and a lot of audiophiles too. a very neutral cable. https://www.cdw.com/product/C2G-25ft-14-AWG-Hospital-Grade-Power-Cord-NEMA-5-15P-to-IEC320C13-Black/2269222?pfm=rvi?pfm=rvi 20 ft https://www.amazon.com/20ft-Nema-Hospital-Grade-5-15P/dp/B00S9XFLQ8/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=hospital+grade+20&qid=1627073020&sr=8-6-catcorr&srs=2529098011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 One thing I ain’t gonna do is get involved or give opinion on cables, off any type. However it appears WBC use Mogami and Canare wire, both considered high quality. And if these cables are actually made/assembled in Switzerland than they’re a steal. Swiss assembly vs. made in China is a tremendous cost difference. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I run a Belden rg6 cable over 20' no problem it's more flexible than other industriallike rg6. If I felt the need to do better and since I have the ability to go xlr, I would go with Mogami mic cable. I believe any of those 2 you will be fine.Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artto Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 On 7/23/2021 at 12:50 PM, babadono said: That said 20' unbalanced cables are asking for trouble IMHO. ditto DITTO and DITTO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC39693 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 @Chiliarches, I think you are in the US? There are some good custom cable makers in Canada, a company in Ontario named Take Five Audio and a person on Canada Audio Mart... no affiliation with either, they both get very high ratings. I’m sure there would be equivalent on US Audio Mart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 another cable thread... proper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parlophone1 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Basic Chord. As interconnect, it os as good as it gets. In Europe, not much more can be gained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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