bribassguy Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 I saw a listing for KPT904 that had with top hats. They didn’t not have the modern Klipsch sticker / part number or the older B&C sticker with Klipsch model. Sticker says LASE DE75TN and has a small bar code… they look like import version maybe??? Pic of unit in question, pic of B&C, pic of older Klipsch KPT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave A Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Perhaps it is from ZXPC on EBay. I see they have some LASE things there and make knock off horns so why not know off drivers too. That DE-75 is old enough to have no patent protection. https://www.ebay.com/itm/233183061147?hash=item364acb249b:g:Fp8AAOSwjothGi~e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Always a possibility that they are seconds or B stock that made it into the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 http://www.zxpc.us/product-p/233183061147.htm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 15, 2021 Moderators Share Posted September 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Emile said: http://www.zxpc.us/product-p/233183061147.htm well you found it. So what phase plug, if any do they have in their? I think Roy developed a special phase plug for that driver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 18 hours ago, Emile said: http://www.zxpc.us/product-p/233183061147.htm 99$ , what A DEAL - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave A Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 5 hours ago, dwilawyer said: well you found it. So what phase plug, if any do they have in their? I think Roy developed a special phase plug for that driver. I know he made a new one for the 1132 driver and the improvement was not subtle. I had no idea how key the phase plug was until I heard that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave A Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 22 hours ago, jimjimbo said: Always a possibility that they are seconds or B stock that made it into the market. The Chinese steal any IP they can get their hands on. But yes B stock, third shift you don't know about stock or even outright production on lines dedicated to B&C drivers are all things they would gladly do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 - B&C - klipsch- ZXPC or Yorkville buy the same driver , from a manufacturer who designs drivers for export , the client adds the sticker , nothing to do with knock offs or Patents protection or B stocks or Factory Seconds , 1 driver under 4 different Brand names and part numbers - that's all , folks - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave A Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, RandyH said: - B&C - klipsch- ZXPC or Yorkville buy the relatively same driver , from a manufacturer who designs drivers for export , the client adds the sticker , nothing to do with knock offs or Patents protection , 1 driver under 4 different Brand names and part numbers -that's all , folks Gee I wonder if selling at half off against your customer is ethical hmm? Like I said the Chinese are masters at getting you to pay for production and then running a third shift on your funded equipment to sell your "unlabeled" goods against your bottom line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Anyone trying these ? please report back - https://www.ebay.com/itm/233183061147?hash=item364acb249b:g:Fp8AAOSwjothGi~e http://www.zxpc.us/product-p/233183061147.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bribassguy Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 10 hours ago, RandyH said: - B&C - klipsch- ZXPC or Yorkville buy the same driver , from a manufacturer who designs drivers for export , the client adds the sticker , nothing to do with knock offs or Patents protection or B stocks or Factory Seconds , 1 driver under 4 different Brand names and part numbers - that's all , folks - Do you have anything to back that up? B&C claim that all of their products are made in Italy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bribassguy Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 12:13 PM, Emile said: http://www.zxpc.us/product-p/233183061147.htm That makes sense.... looked at a pair of "factory" KPT904 and seller failed to mention that they were ZXPC horns and LASE drivers. Had to walk away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmlowz Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 10 hours ago, RandyH said: Anyone trying these ? please report back - https://www.ebay.com/itm/233183061147?hash=item364acb249b:g:Fp8AAOSwjothGi~e http://www.zxpc.us/product-p/233183061147.htm Do you buy them all Randy? they are sold out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, rmlowz said: Do you buy them all Randy? they are sold out you can buy the driver from ZXPC , but they seem to sell like hotcakes , 99$ - http://www.zxpc.us/product-p/233183061147.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmlowz Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 the ebay link is out will try ZXPC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Great - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 33 minutes ago, rmlowz said: the ebay link is out will try ZXPC OK ---ZXPC do sell directly -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 16, 2021 Moderators Share Posted September 16, 2021 11 hours ago, RandyH said: - B&C - klipsch- ZXPC or Yorkville buy the same driver , from a manufacturer who designs drivers for export , the client adds the sticker , nothing to do with knock offs or Patents protection or B stocks or Factory Seconds , 1 driver under 4 different Brand names and part numbers - that's all , folks - That's not correct. K-691 made in Italia along with most of B&C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, dwilawyer said: That's not correct. K-691 made in Italia along with most of B&C. -there are a lot of OEM driver manufacturers in Italy- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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